Completely agree. It is terribly annoying being linked to a website, looking up at the url, and seeing some bullshit aggregator or other url-forwarder. I feel like I'm being taken advantage of, and immediately bounce.
I agree! Allow the bar to record the click through but quite the framing biz. I use the service but shy away from the shortner ever time due to this very point.
I wonder if Kevin has done this because he is so in tune with what the geek-crowd think and if so has he made this decision for the right reasons? The geeks here in HN and elsewhere are always going to complain the loudest about things like the DiggBar. However, Digg is trying to go mainstream - do the normals really care about the DiggBar? Presuming they represent >99% of Digg's desired audience should they really make a change for the 1% that are moaning? Admittedly I have no idea what the point of the Digg bar is because I too hate it, but I wonder if amongst the normals it is achieving its business goal and therefore should stay?
I believe their desired audience is that 99% (now that the core tech crowd has left). Have you seen the programming section's 'popular' page? It's practically barren. That's how you know the original tech crowd left. In Digg's prime that section was poppin', so to speak.
That's kind of what the parent comment was pointing out. There aren't really tech geeks on Digg anymore, and the presumption is that only tech geeks care about not having the DiggBar. So maybe it doesn't make sense to get rid of it, if most of the people on Digg don't care anyway.
The average person does not care at all about framing people's stuff. Look at all the URL shortners on Twitter. There's a good number of "normal" people using Twitter and they don't seem to care.
Everything I look at through Digg is frustratingly slow to open. I'm presuming this is something to do with the DiggBar rather than the sites having trouble coping with the Digg traffic. I'll be glad to see its back.
Easily the most likable thing Kevin Rose has ever done. Not just the killing of the DiggBar, but the unbanning of banned sites, and this little bit:
Also with the launch of the new Digg will be unbanning all previously banned domains. While we will apply automated filters to prevent malware/virus/TOS violations, no other restrictions will be placed on content.
I agree that forcing content to be framed with the 'diggbar' is annoying/wrong/bad/etc, but I kind of like it as an optional feature. It can be very handy when you open a bunch of links from the main page at once, and then forget what the headline was or want to check out the comments quickly.
I've started using digg again occasionally and the Diggbar doesn't bother me that much from a casual user point of view.
What ended up making me turn it off was actually all the framebusters, because I had gotten in the flow of using it and when it went away, it was annoying.
Diggbar is dead, long live Diggbar:
"That said, we will continue to iterate on our browser extensions for Firefox, Chrome, and IE. Look for seriously revamped versions of those in a few months.”
This is a nice first step to common sense changes to Digg. Features often seem like great ideas during brainstorming sessions, but don't rise to expectations when they are actually implemented.
Digg, back in its prime, use to be a thriving tech community. However, since its expansion, it has attracted all types of internet users who seek infographics, videos of cats and political commentary rather than tech articles.
to answer my own question, it's described here - http://about.digg.com/diggbar - and seems to be something that's completely optional (you can enter a url like http://digg.com/http://google.com that displays, in this case, google in a frame with a "bar" at the top).
given all that i still don't understand a comment on this page about disabling it - it seems to be something you have to enable not disable...
