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No sign of a fire extinguishing or pad deluge system, such as NASA had for the shuttle. Maybe Space-X needs that. Fire crews can't approach until the fire burns itself out - too toxic.



The point of those systems was to limit damage from vibration and rocket exhaust on a normal launch, not to allow the pad to withstand an explosion. (And SpaceX does have them as well; the pad deluge system is more visible than usual in this video of the Dragon pad-abort test, which was conducted at the same launch pad they use for Falcon 9s, though without the rocket itself or any of its mobile support equipment: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1_FXVjf46T8 -- the large streams of water kick in a few seconds before the Dragon abort thrusters kick off.)


> The point of those systems was to limit damage from vibration and rocket exhaust

It is important to note that the deluge functioned to protect the launch vehicle from sound vibrational damage, not the pad.


> Fire crews can't approach until the fire burns itself out - too toxic.

You're thinking of hypergolic propellants like hydrazine and nitric acid. This is kerosene (RP-1) and liquid oxygen. Not particularly toxic, just hot as hell.

The deluge system in shuttle launches was for the flame trench and sound dampening to avoid the air pressure from the noise damaging the vehicle, not fire extinguishing.

You can see the launch tower get charred black, that's the fire protective paint.

It's not really possible to fight rocket fuel fires, just mitigate the damage.


Although the satellite itself had a lot of hydrazine on board. That's probably what caused the smaller second explosion when the fairing fell off and hit the ground.


Yes that's my guess as well. 200 million dollar firecracker


stupid question: is that the actual manufacturing price, or is there some one time R&D and tooling in it?


Seems like a really good question to me! I'd guess there's some one-time stuff involved, so the replacement won't cost $200 million, but it won't be a whole lot cheaper. My totally uninformed random guess would be something like $100-150 million for the second one. Maybe more, it could be that the one-time stuff is already amortized across multiple satellites.


I wondered the same thing. I can't imagine more than a few million dollars of raw material goes into a satellite. I'd wager it's more like $150mil to design the satellite, then $20mil for parts and $20mil for labour to build it (since these things are so low-volume they've gotta be largely hand made).

It'd certainly suck to be one of the people who's slaved over the satellite for the last couple of years, to see your baby get blown to smithereens like this.


Oh, right; the Falcon second stage is just a smaller version of the first stage.




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