hi @wlamartin - thanks for replying. It will be great if you can follow the (rather long) parallel thread on this topic. You should have a fairly good idea of how I personally look at this.
I wouldnt generalize that this is the problem that a small startup would always see ... but I think it is fairly close.
I did read it, and believe I understood, I just wasn't sure whether to apply your criticisms of CF as a whole to Garden individually, or whether there were additional distinct technical issues that you had concerns about.
The good news from a small startup/lone developer/tinkerer is that we have some work coming up in our backlog to make that much easier, including a single downloadable binary with sensible pre-configured defaults so people who don't want to wrestle with BOSH don't have to. (https://www.pivotaltracker.com/story/show/119174859)
While we grew to meet the containerization needs of CF first and foremost, I'd definitely love to see more projects like Concourse (https://concourse.ci) make use of Garden. Seeing first hand the dance they do to consume it, we definitely need to up our game if this is to be an attainable goal.
I wouldnt generalize that this is the problem that a small startup would always see ... but I think it is fairly close.
I would say this comment (and its reply) captures the gist very accurately - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12378554