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Hahaha, I started reading this straight away without glancing at the sidebar. Nodding my head in agreement with the grossness of SF (even though I live here and love it) and then after a few paragraphs thought, "man, this guy does a pretty good impression of Zed Shaw."

Oh. I guess he just moved here from New York.




Had I seen the sidebar before I read the article I would have stopped reading after the first paragraph.

Let me add that after reading the article I found it to be lacking in any real valuable content that would have made this a hacker news story. It seems like he is rambling on about something, that yes I agree it is rude, it is not that big of a deal and is part of the American culture.

Also, swear words were thrown in not because they added anything to the piece, but rather because he could. Shame really.


To paraphrase Zed:

"Swearing a lot in someone's face is a way of saying you're in charge, but you're totally laid back man."


"Also, swear words were thrown in not because they added anything to the piece, but rather because he could."

Well, some people use vulgarity the way others put their feet on the table.


I strongly prefer the former type of people. Sticks and stones motherfucker, sticks and stones...


... and is part of the American culture.

More presciently, total ignorance of the question of culture and assumed dominance and superiority over even the possibility of other cultures is part of the American culture. Whatever you might think about Zed, try to separate that from your argument and realize that he does have a point. It's distorted by his comical Personal Over Intensification Field, but if you're the type to throw your feet up on the table do take at least one thing away from this article.

It's extremely rude to some people and thus loudly demonstrates that you're considering their point of view worth pretty much precisely zilch. Even without the dog shit.


"is part of the American culture."

Not really. I live in Michigan and sticking your feet in people's face would definitely be considered rude, and, more to the point, nobody does it.

Probably because for a very good chunk of the year, sticking your footwear on a bit of furniture is a recipe for damaging the furniture badly. Most furniture is not waterproof, and it's easy to hit things a lot harder than you meant to with your boots.


The world according to Zed:

Putting your shoes on the table: Arrogant & impolite

Swearing a lot: A OK!

I don't know why he's so upset with feces on the table when you consider what comes out of his mouth.

Note: I like to swear as well, but I don't go around being miss manners.


Swearing in English doesn't upset people not from the USA


And it doesn't upset half the people FROM the US, either.


Don't you think swearing in English could potentially offend anyone who speaks English whether or not they're from the USA?


I never understood how swearing could be offensive. Actually, I find people that find words offensive, offensive.


This is very true.

A friend of mine grew up in California and now lives in Ireland. He thinks I swear an awful lot, while I don't even notice! Obviously I watch my mouth in front of older relatives, parents etc, but when hanging around with friends, the gloves come off. (He also has the peculiar American trait of having no 'sarcasm radar').

Tommy Tiernan's take on the matter:

"Sometimes I think the English language is a brick wall between me and you (this is in Montreal), and FUCK is my chisel"

Watch 0:40 - 1:10

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BWIqQqliksc


… or the UK.


You can't get HepA from dirty words.

You can get it from having someone's shit-covered feet all over a surface that you eat off of, though.


But of course, nobody's feet are actually covered in shit. They have walked on the same planet as shit, of course, but that's about it.


You've never accidentally stepped in dog shit? Especially in NYC it seems to be everywhere (at least on the Upper East Side).


I live in Chicago, where we have trees (and alleys, for that matter). The dogs do their business in the planter boxes, which I don't walk in.

As for the bums shitting on the sidewalk, we have a solution to that problem. Winter.


Because one doesn't spread diseases by swearing.


Who cares? The site is a site for ranting, and you are upset that he is ranting there? If you want to see "real valuable content", try to submit something yourself. I see you have 0 submissions.




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