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And so it begins... Seton Hill University to give all students an iPad (tuaw.com)
9 points by zazi on March 31, 2010 | hide | past | favorite | 18 comments



Is it really gives all students an iPad? More like they up your tuition and force an iPad on you. Nothing is free, but they sure can spin it that way.


Have you got a source for that? Im not disputing it but it isn't mentioned anywhere I found.


It is a widely-established general trend for both public and private colleges and universities - details may differ -, to which this university is no exception:

"Published tuition and fees at public four-year colleges and universities rose at an average annual rate of 4.9% per year beyond general inflation from 1999-2000 to 2009-10, more rapidly than in either of the previous two decades" http://www.trends-collegeboard.com/college_pricing/highlight... http://www.50states.com/college/detail/pa/215947.htm

Edit: There is obviously no direct causal connection between tuition increases and this specific iPad giveaway. It's still being paid for indirectly by students' money, obviously.


i'm not sure what you're asking, but generally it's illegal to print you own money.


well, no; the GP was suggesting the college is charging more in tuition to cover the iPad costs. I couldn't see where they got that info from was all :)


i think you would agree i was saying a little more than i actually wrote.

similarly, i suspect the original poster was saying something along the lines of "every organisation has to deal with finite resources, so spending on one item means less for an another. instead of spending money on ipads they could have reduced fees, or reduced their increase... etc etc".


Hmm, well you do talk in tangents sometimes ;)

I don't think you've interpreted his comment correctly - it sounded the poster was making an uncertified direct claim that tuition fees have risen to pay for this. It was getting upvotes so I queried it. :) Apparently this is conjecture - which is cool I just wanted to know.


Who pays for the iPads? Presumably it is in the tuition fees? In any case it is probably more of an advertising thing than a revolutionary teaching thing.

Can't get mom and pops to buy you an iPad? Go to Seton Hill and they don't have a choice but buy you one.


> "Students will be able to download their textbooks to their iPads from the iBook Store. In addition, iPads can be used as phones and for air and file sharing, as well as note-taking."

The iPad isn't a phone. Many textbooks don't have good PDF versions. If the file sharing is similar to the iPhone (and it looks that way) it's going to be a lousy share-by-email experience. You can't use the Dropbox app (or similar), because Dropbox files live in the "Dropbox" directory, and your other files will be in the "Documents" or "Presentations" directory. And note-taking? Sure you're joking. The iPad is a "hunt-and-peck-required" device. How can you possibly pay attention when you spend a full minute on every sentence?

I suspect this will end up as a major disappointment -- the iPad isn't ready to replace a laptop yet. It's a consumer's device, and college isn't exclusively about consumption of content.


If the file sharing is similar to the iPhone (and it looks that way) it's going to be a lousy share-by-email experience.

That's funny, because I never mail myself documents on the iPhone.

You can't use the Dropbox app (or similar), because Dropbox files live in the "Dropbox" directory

If all you want is to read a document, what's the problem?

And note-taking? Sure you're joking. The iPad is a "hunt-and-peck-required" device.

And you're basing this on what data?

I suspect this will end up as a major disappointment -- the iPad isn't ready to replace a laptop yet. It's a consumer's device, and college isn't exclusively about consumption of content.

Currently, everyone needs a laptop to sync content with an iPad. If everyone has a laptop, what's the problem? It's not as if college is devoid of consuming content.

Also, everything you point out looks like a business opportunity to me, not some sort of overwhelming world-halting problem.


> And you're basing this on what data?

Steve Jobs fumbling his way through a single sentence during the original iPad launch, and the hunt-and-peck typing used in the promotional videos.

> It's not as if college is devoid of consuming content.

Agreed, but if you need a real laptop anyway (Mathematica, writing essays, etc, etc), is it really worth it to carry both?


If your're set to do some heavy reading, does it pay to lug your laptop? Maybe if you want to do some browsing or tinkering. The iPad can do the former now. The latter will get implemented for lots of uses, for profit.


> The iPad is a "hunt-and-peck-required" device.

Most comments I saw from people that have used them so far have expressed surprise that one or two handed typing is quite easy/natural. A lot of people can type fairly quickly (my brother can type unbelievably fast on his iPhone) on tablets now. It could work.


My experience is that most iPhone users still (after a few years) look at their fingers as they type. The promotional iPad videos show slow, deliberate, two finger hunt and peck typing.

If the average touch-typist gets to even 40WPM on the iPad I'd be amazed.


The current college generation has been trained by years of thumb based cell phone typing. It's a whole new game out there...


This is based on extensive testing of the iPads in their classrooms? No, just hype. If this is the normal operating procedure for Seton Hill I would transfer now.


Wow. I can remember from something under 20 years ago, Seton Hill was listed among the most financially troubled schools in the US. Guess admitting men might have helped.


If textbooks from iBookstore is cheaper than paperbacks, this will definitely work!




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