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I think you've missed the point about racial identity.

White people do get to embrace their identity, but how it's how they do it that matters.

"White pride", for better or worse, is closely linked to "white supremacy."

That is different than, https://stuffwhitepeoplelike.com/ which embraces and celebrates "white" culture, without demonizing other cultures.




> https://stuffwhitepeoplelike.com/ which embraces and celebrates "white" culture

Seriously? Have you read it at all?


You clearly missed my point.

How would you celebrate white culture?


I wouldn't assume there is such a thing as a single, monolithic "white culture", to start with. (Or black culture, or Latin culture, or...)

Stuff White People Like describes what is specifically the culture of coastal urban white hipsters, which is a relatively small subset of white people in the US. It's really inaccurate to think of those traits as "white culture" period. And I'd call what SWPL does with its subject matter less "celebration" than "savage excoriation". Maybe the people it describes don't take it so; I don't know. I've never yet knowingly run into anyone who took it any other way.


I've yet to see an example of anyone seriously celebrating being white in some way that wasn't automatically being treated as racist.

Things like what you link seem to get a pass because it's somewhat satirical in nature.


How would you celebrate white culture?


The United States is the only place that I have lived that has celebrated 'black culture'. It's in fact, the only place where the culture is even defined like that.

Because the native ethnic cultures, and tribal ties were destroyed by years of slavery, the United States is one of the few places which has a culture for 'blacks' that's uniquely different from anything of a specific tribe.

Being from a W. African country, I'm keenly aware that we do not celebrate 'Africanism', or even nationalism in any respect despite the government's best efforts to get us to do so. Everyone is broadly aware of their family, their tribe, and their choice religion/philosophy.

With respect to white culture, I think it must be hard to celebrate it in isolation. Almost anything that you would want to celebrate, could be given to a specific nation (thus be patriotic, not race pride), or given to a specific European ethnicity (e.g. most foods, older music, and the like).


> The United States is the only place that I have lived that has celebrated 'black culture'. It's in fact, the only place where the culture is even defined like that.

Oh yes, that's a good point. In Europe, Germans celebrate German culture, Frenchmen celebrate French culture, etc. Culture is not considered to be the same thing as skin color.


> With respect to white culture, I think it must be hard to celebrate it in isolation. Almost anything that you would want to celebrate, could be given to a specific nation (thus be patriotic, not race pride)

Or in other words, already celebrated everyday here in America.


celebrated != experienced


Type "celebration of black" into Google, look at the auto-complete results. Imagine those things, but with black flipped to white.


That sort of celebration happens defacto. I guess you prefer it to be called out explicitly?

Or when you were in grade school, did you only learn about ["black","asian","latino"] authors, musicians, scholars, scientists, inventors, actors, etc etc?


It depends what country you went to school in. So, yes, there are quite a few places where you will get only "["black","asian","latino"] authors, musicians, scholars, scientists, inventors, actors" till you get to university and get exposed to more. I mean, you don't think in Columbia, or Ukraine or the Philippines you'll read much American authors, musicians, scholars, scientists, inventors, actors, etc., other than those part of the global patrimony?


This entire thread is about the US.


So the US is exceptional and defies the phenomena we see in other countries?


Strawman.




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