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So if I'm a copper and I see someone with a nice shiny laptop I want, I can just stop them and take their laptop for my own?

that's insane! Why aren't Americans rioting in the streets about this?




The police are careful to prioritise nonwhite people for looting, and occasionally they do riot about their treatment by police. The fact that US police can shoot people dead without an external legal investigation is also riot material.


Because the government always trots out drugs and terrorism as the defense. Americans hate drugs and terrorists. Therefore we need to stop their funding!

Fortunately this family of stories are getting more ink and video. John Oliver did a show on it. Local stories popup about small time business owner trying to buy a truck getting screwed.

So we are seeing two things America likes hitting heads: fighting terror and small businesses getting screwed.

https://youtu.be/3kEpZWGgJks


Forget your shiny laptop. Imagine you own a hotel. Copper can catch some guy hanging out in your lobby claiming he might have drugs then take your motel and delivery van.

Americans don't riot because they think "drug person lost his motel? who cares?".



Holy crap, I thought the poster had made that story about the motel up.

The best part is, there is zero penalty for trying to take an entire hotel! It's like Grand Theft Auto in reverse with god mode on.


Kid has $40 worth of heroin in in his bedroom, parents' housed seized for being tied to a drug crime.

http://www.cnn.com/2014/09/03/us/philadelphia-drug-bust-hous...


If you thought I made it up check this story:

A guy gets caught on street selling marijuana worth $10 he has a teen friend with him at that time. Cops arrest him (the friend) and then visit his home which happens to be owned by his own Grandparents who live with another 9 young grand-children in that home. Cops take the house and make the grandparents pay a rent to continue in their own home. Grandparents are poor and can't pay the rent hence they settle for the plea bargain where they basically give the home to cops in return of freedom of their grandchild and forgiving the rent money for one month they stayed in it.


People may make stories up, but there is often an actual occurrence that mirrors the story, even if the story and the occurrence are unrelated.

In other words, even if you can demonstrate that a particular story is made up, it doesn't mean that it doesn't happen. It doesn't even mean that it doesn't happen often.


Carmel is a charming women. I think there is a need for more people like her in positions of almost total power. How can "hands off leadership" and "overzealousness" go wrong.


I think Dark Triad is at work. You cant be a CIA agent unless you are good at lying but then you cant be expected to uphold law and be accountable for the exact same reason.

A DA who has compassion for people, who tries to be nice and keep the community safe without being overzealous is likely to lose to someone who keep trash talking criminals, puts lot of people behind bars etc.

"Mr. X is a child abuser, should he be sent to jail? " How can anyone answer NO to that question but in reality Mr. X married a girl of 17 years old and could have had a very happy married life.


>Why aren't Americans rioting in the streets about this?

It isn't something that your average middle class American has to worry about too often. Cops mostly target the poor and people of color so the issues around civil forfeiture are largely unknown outside those who have experienced abuse of civil forfeiture.

Just like how many white Americans think racism is a solved problem since they don't experience it personally.




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