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Dragonegg Successfully Self-Hosts (llvm.org)
33 points by jeff18 on Feb 21, 2010 | hide | past | favorite | 9 comments



You know, I keep reading this stuff on self-hosting, and it gave me an idea that has nothing to do with this original post. I think you'll like the idea, though.

Imagine an AI kind of program that:

- determines the cheapest, most capable hosting provider - determines the top 20 trending niches and randomly picks one - determines the best available domain name for that trending niche - uses a credit card and sets itself up with hosting - finds trending content and through synonymizers writes short summaries about it and links to it - signs up for and uses multiple ad networks until it can find the most lucrative top three for the content it serves and rotates these three - every week, broadcasts a link about itself to other social bookmarking and social networking sites - automatically uses whitehat SEO techniques to try and increase its page rank - within three months, reproduces itself to build yet another site like that - after 12 months, sells that copy on flippa.com automatically

The only thing it needs is a credit card and someone to respond to captchas or click the Submit on a form it suggests.

Each new owner merely sits back and collects the profit. It's a self-aware affiliate marketing system.

Pretty funny, eh? However, it also would be pretty interesting to watch.


In other words, Artificial Intelligence will be the inadvertent result of Google's war with search spammers. Google will get better and better at detecting non-human generated content until robots are generating such high-quality content that we won't be able to tell -- or care -- that it's generated by robots.

P.S. I am that robot.


Add in cheap Indians, replace "white hat" with "black hat" (comment spamming, etc), and make it massively parallel across tens of thousands of sites, and you have a lot of modern SEO operations on the seedier side of the tracks. Many of them are one-man operations (aside from the team of outsourcers). His job is strategic direction (identifying sources of keywords to build spam sites for, etc), conducting the outsourcing symphony, sometimes a bit of programming, and cashing the big checks.

On the less seedy side of the market Demand Media is essentially a corporation representing a collaborative endeavor between an AI and a million monkeys with typewriters.


I've never seen this Flippa site before, does anyone have experience with it? A few of the sites look really bad, but I can see potential in fixing them up.


For those who don't know what dragonegg is; it's a rewrite of llvm-gcc as a plugin for gcc 4.5 (which is the first gcc to support plugins) so that you can pass the -fplugin=./dragonegg.so switch to gcc and generate llvm IR.


i've just googled around trying to find some performance numbers, but failed to find anything. does anyone know how this compares to gcc? (more intersting would be an article that explains what optimisations gcc is doing that llvm doesn't do yet).

ps congrats to dragon egg ;o)


Ugliest powerpoint ever, but it does have some benchmarks about halfway through. It's a bit out of date.

http://llvm.org/devmtg/2009-10/Sands_LLVMGCCPlugin.pdf


thanks!


I have to wonder whether these people are really prepared, trained and equipped for the self-incubation, not to mention hatching and beyond.




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