I wasn't sure at first, but now I think you're being actively dishonest to try and ...? Who knows.
> Selective service is a back-up plan that has not been
> used
Right. Except for WW1, WW2, Korea and Vietnam, which drafted collectively 15m people, when has it ever been used? Either you knew that, and lied, or you didn't know that, and decided to speak authoritively on the point anyway. It would have taken you 10 seconds with Google to know either way.
> It's in 'weird news' for a reason, it's not there
> because this is the normal state of things
Right, because the Apple case is run-of-the-mill? The Apple case is "the normal state of things"?
You said it was a new low for the courts. It's not even close. That's my point. You're twisting yourself and your words in circles.
> I wasn't sure at first, but now I think you're being actively dishonest to try and ...? Who knows.
That's all in your mind I'm afraid.
> Right. Except for WW1, WW2, Korea and Vietnam, which drafted collectively 15m people, when has it ever been used?
Yes, they were drafted. And since then the draft has been abolished and the US is at present operating an all volunteer force. Nobody got drafted into Iraq or Afghanistan.
That they can re-instate it does not change anything to the fact that right now the US does not have a draft. If you don't like the situation the way it is right now you have the following options:
(1) you can resist if a draft is re-instated, and you'll probably end up in a lot of trouble (I did this and got away with it (not in the US)) but it is possible to resist
(2) you can leave the country
(3) you can give up and get shot at for someone else's reasons
> Right, because the Apple case is run-of-the-mill? The Apple case is "the normal state of things"?
No, the Apple case is very much in the public eye and Apple is a very wealthy company. The courts may see fit to compel Apple to do this but if the employees resign I don't see how the courts are going to conscript them back into working for Apple, and so far nothing you've shown has made me change my mind on that.
> You said it was a new low for the courts. It's not even close. That's my point. You're twisting yourself and your words in circles.
No, I said it would be a new low.
If you feel that these other things are already below that then that's your right but for me there is a huge difference.
Anyway, I'm kind of tired of your personal attacks so I'll let this rest. Bye.
>>> Selective service is a back-up plan that has not been
>>> used
>> Except for WW1, WW2, Korea and Vietnam
> Yes, they were drafted
That's because Selective Service "is a back-up plan that has not been used" is a falsehood.
> And since then the draft has been abolished
"the draft" has not been abolished any more than "war is over". The specific drafts for each conflict are finished because the conflicts are finished. The US retains the right to draft its citizens in law, and it (in contrast to many other states) actively maintains a whole government agency just for that, and remains the right to prosecute - to this day - 18 year old men who don't sign up. In more than half of US States, when you get a driving license, you are registered explicitly as eligible for military service.
> If you feel that these other things are already below that
Do I think your country compelling you to kill people is lower than your country compelling you to patch a binary? I guess I do, on account of not being deranged.
You said it was a new low for the courts. It's not even close. That's my point. You're twisting yourself and your words in circles.