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> I'm going to disagree with you here. Didn't we think, back in 2001, that we'd only have to live with pat-downs on every plane flight for so long? That the government would eventually realize that terrorists couldn't hijack planes once passengers knew that the proper response was to storm the cockpit rather than waiting for the usual ransom demand to be acquiesced to? That the terrorists would find other ways to cause terror?

Thank you for bringing this into the picture.

The thing is that once you give up a bit of your liberty to the state, you never get it back.

The TSA is an abomination. You can basically shred the whole Bill of Rights as soon as you step into an airport.

> You will get to choose between using paper and having some random police officer [1] decide that it's time for you to go down and he's absolutely sure he can find something you've done wrong [2].

"Show me the man and I'll show you the crime."




> The TSA is an abomination.

And the shoe and underwear bombers were some kind of geniuses. "Hey, his putting a failed bomb in his shoe made all the Americans take off their shoes in aiports. I wonder what would happen if I put one in my underwear?"

The guy who convinced TSA to confiscate my 12oz bottle of shampoo because I hadn't poured it into 4 3oz bottles, then put them in a Ziplock bag, also deserves a prize.


The TSA is an abomination. I will not set foot in US for fear of them. The most important conferences in my business are in US and a few customers have already requested my consulting, but there's no way I travel to US.


Same here, though, truth be told Schiphol is now just as bad as many American airports.




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