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  > > I'm biased against Hip Hop nowadays Congratulations: you know your
  > biases. Overcome them. Because if you can't draw a straight line
  > between David Bowie and 808s and Heartbreak, that is on you.  But he's
  > "arrogant" (my, but the coded language, isn't that interesting!), so
  > that doesn't matter I guess. Bowie was just a shrinking violet, right?
I don't get what you mean about drawing a straight line ? you mean judging fair ? I admit it's difficult to understand why I would say "Let's dance" is good iconic music while West is tasteless Pfip Pop. And Let's dance isn't Bowie most beautiful music. I just discovered Space Oddity .. well.

I just heard '808s' and I quit before half. I never heard anything from West that was worth being arrogant that what I meant. Most of what I heard from him was just mundane flat post 2000s hip hop that I can't bear anymore. It's far from my definition of music, flat, processed, easy. It's barely even music to my ears. People should dig in Jazzy Jeff, Dilla, D'angelo then reflect on todays mainstream.




>I never heard anything from West that was worth being arrogant that what I meant

I think you're getting caught up in marketing. While you're not the target it still effects you and how you enjoy music. I've started to ignore what artists say or do and it's really allowed me to appreciate a lot more music because I can just enjoy it for what it is instead of thinking about the image they're trying to sell.


Fair point. But in West's case, it's not even marketing, his running into Swift to rage about Knowles award loss was him entirely. Unless it was his PR team that gave him the idea. I'll keep your idea in mind though.


He drank an entire bottle of Hennessy before that incident. It's not like he planned to do what he did on stage. It was an unfortunately public mistake, and I'm sure anyone who had been drinking that much would have done something stupid even if it wasn't that specifically.


My conspiracy theory would be that Swift (or her people) put him up to it. Sympathy sells, and a whole lot of people heard of her as a result. And she has shown herself to be extremely savvy.


How would that work ? She teased him to the point of him rage-invading the stage ?


I mean the two of them planned the whole thing beforehand. (Relies on them knowing she'd win before the ceremony, but is that so implausible?)


nothing is implausible, but what was in it for Kanye West ? unless he's into career sado-masochism.




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