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Why the condescending tone?

I'm not particularly stupid (north of 130 last time I measured), I'm not in the pocket of big oil (works with solar power, the more solar, the more chance I get a fat bonus).

Some things just doesn't feel right about the AGW debate and I try to debate it and leave a few, friendly pointers here and at AT about the things that sticks out (private jets to climate conferences etc) but it feels quite a few people sits ready to rubber stamps anyone who isn't zealous enough about supporting every aspect of every part and every proponent of the AGW.



I am not trying to be condescending, I am just trying to explain things that perhaps should be obvious. You said you have to trust the scientists, I don't think it's true, and I explained why.

But then you say:

"I try to debate it and leave a few, friendly pointers here"

So perhaps what I just said is not obvious to you! Instead of understanding what the actual scientists' model of AGW is, you're looking for ridiculous reasons why it's not true. Exactly what you shouldn't be doing if you agree with what I wrote above. And I left you a "friendly pointer" of what you should be reading.

You should also be charitable to other people. Yes, we are all aware of the irony of these climate conferences. But what do you want to do? James Hansen is a good example (his short talk from the conference is probably the best one, by the way). He decided to leave the politics in mid-90s, and focus back to science, only to recently return, because he's just p* off by inaction. So yeah, people tried not to use planes, but to what effect?


Unfortunately, pointing out things like private jets to climate conference just makes you sound like you are taking cheap potshots. You have the leaders from 195 countries attending a meeting. Yes. Heads of State sometimes use private jets. Other than symbolism, it is entirely unimportant.




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