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And i don't think many would have noticed the existence of systemd, as was the case with upstart, if the projects devs had not started lumping all manner of non-init projects into the systemd bucket.

My first encounter with the existence of systemd was while keeping half an eye on the whole consolekit+polkit+udisk rigamarole i apparently needed to get thunar (or more correctly gvfs) to automount stuff.

This when i learned that consolekit was to be replaced with logind, and logind required systemd as init.

That, to me, was a very WTF moment. It basically made a file manager dependent on a specific init being used.




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