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(obligatory dad-joke) It seems like parts of this one went pretty far!


Now I either need to charge it every day (and add the hassle of unplugging/plugging every time I use the car) or I need to think about it more.

I can't fathom not plugging my car in to charge when I park in my normal spot. It doesn't seem like much effort.

But my comment isn't to ridicule you - it's to point out how diverse and different our home charging experiences are, without awareness of others. I had no idea that anyone charged differently than I do.

Meanwhile, I have a motion-activated light switch in the garage. So I guess I don't want the hassle of flipping light switches, yet I plug/unplug daily.


Now I wish I had a map of who sells what under what brand, so I can see how they're all related, and who (if anyone) doesn't play these games.


Especially when mamy US homes have AC power available under the sink. So strange that a smart faucet product wouldn't use that.


Where? I've never seen that, and given that it's an area routinely transited by lots of running water, it seems stupid. Leaks happen.


It's for the garbage disposal


And it's a story that haunts the marine biology field. Imagine having to explain that one every time someone asks about it.


Oh yeah, imagine having to explain an experiment you had nothing to do with, that happened before you were born.

Imagine having to explain dragnet surveillance every time someone finds out you know how to code.

Imagine having to explain the Exon Valdez every time someone asks you about your car.

Roll out the reparations!


You and I start from the same base information: the power from the solar in real-time isn't enough to drive a "real car", immediately. But we come to totally different conclusions.

The solar hitting the roof of this thing over the course of a day is enough to make my average commute in that thing. That's what batteries are for. I'm not driving from sun-up to sun-down. (And you can plug it in anytime you want.)

Yes there are some huge trade-offs to make it work: It's not a 3-row minivan, it's not a 4-door sedan, it's a bizzare-looking car-like thing that moves only two people, but does so in the comfort that I desire for my daily use. And the solar part is only going to work out in a sunny place, if you park it in the sun. That happens to be exactly what I'm looking for.

Even if it didn't have solar, it's a ridiculously efficient EV, which I'd prefer over a ridiculously fast car or very large SUV.

I would understand "That seems like a small market" or "that's too many trade-offs for me", but "It's just not a good idea" seems like harsh judgement for a vehicle because it doesn't appeal to your visual preferences or usage.


Agreed, I'd make the same argument as parent for a Harley. It's not my cup of tea, loud, impractical, and a gas guzzler, but it clearly appeals to a bunch of people. Give things a chance for goodness sake. Aptera never claimed you don't need to charge.


Those OAK cameras start at $400. Frigate is free, and any of the options for hardware acceleration it's detectors will be cheaper. I don't think OAK cameras are a good choice for home surveillance.


I think people get "install a home EV charger" mixed up with "install a fast home EV charger".

If your goal is to full-charge a multi-hundred-mile EV in 8 hours, then, yes, you're looking at a significant installation with a new circuit, maybe a new panel, and maybe a new main feed from your utility. This could cost as much as the car!

If your goal is to charge enough overnight to make up for 2x your average daily commute, then you're talking about a much smaller installation. It could potentially even be done with through an existing 120V, 12A wall outlet. Many plug-in hybrids and EVs come with a dinky wall charger like this, and they are enough 99% of the time. External DC fast charging can make up for the rest.

Everyone's needs are different, but I think too many people rush in and go too far with electrical upgrades.


Yeah, like you say, everyone's needs are difference, but from my vantage point, an EV isn't really workable for my household without a home Level 2 charger, which isn't really workable without a panel/feed upgrade for my house.


FWIW, the Sol-ark's (and presumably the Deye's) support getting telemetry via local RS-485.


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