This map is incomplete. We have 1 GW capacity of hydro chained in 3-4 power plants on just 20-30kms of river near our city, its nowhere to be found on this map.
That's serveral conjectures on your part.
Give me metrics about the minority and then back up the fact that most of those people never wrote a sysinit or rc script by hand.
Like it or not Systemd breaks the Unix way and for a certain amount of people (I am not pretending to have a measuring stick) the dogma and philosophy are much more important than perceived ease of use or features.
All the major distros, especially server distros, run systemd. That is proof enough that NOT running systemd is a niche and unsupported configuration in any half-serious setup.
A conjecture is not automatically wrong. The point of a conjecture is to challenge someone else to prove it wrong. You'd have a hard time showing proof that systemd is niche.
And honestly, it does not break UNIX, let's be serious now. A haphazard bunch of shell scripts is not much better than a monolithic binary, and UNIX does not give a damn either way.
I do not care about dogma and philosophy, I am an engineer with software to run and deadlines to meet.
> I am an engineer with software to run and deadlines to meet.
Sure, but UNIX, with its minimalist philosophy, was - luckily for us! - not created under that slogan. With respect to quality, this slogan has always been the one driving its decrease that we see all around us today.
UNIX was created by engineers to run software, not as a philosophical device.
Sorry to say, yours is a terrible excuse. I respect that you might not like systemd, no software is perfect and systemd has many flaws, but the "think of the UNIX philosophy" is righteous nonsense that I cannot take seriously.
The real world is not black-and-white, with or against us. One of the most beloved UNIX tools, Emacs, is as far removed from the minimalist philosophy that some have decided to be UNIX's crowning achievement. It is not. Linux and UNIX have not won because we're all into minimalism, or dogmatic zealotry.
I don't care about a 50 year old technology philosophy. Times have changed.
Cloud computing and the prevalence of highly distributed systems have completely changed how software is deployed, scaled, and managed. These environments often rely on complex orchestration which can stretch the boundaries of the UNIX philosophy towards systems that are more about interactions between distributed components than about simple, single-purpose tools.
I don't see how it's relevant. An orchestration tool can also follow the Unix way by not implementing too much functionality and relying on the small tools for subtasks.
And do you know what systemd is? A project that produces multiple orthogonal executables that share a syntax paradigm and communicate over standardized IPC mechanisms.
I think the only valid-ish argument these Unix philosophy discussions boil down to "why didn't they use purely text based interfaces". Well because they are inefficent and hard to debug and reason with. Making things text only doesn't make them more understandable but they make sure the programs waste energy and development time in meaningless parsing code that is full of security issues.
You have a point concerning the text files. (Although I would be really interested to see an example where efficiency of text files is insufficient on modern hardware.)
However "multiple orthogonal multiple orthogonal executables" is just a strawman: their interfaces are unstable and non-straightforward, aand communicate over standardized IPC mechanismsnd one can't reliably replace one of them with an alternative. It's technically true but in practice not. This effectively makes it a huge, inflexible, not-easily-verifiable blob with wide permissions and, potentially, many bugs.
> and communicate over standardized IPC mechanisms
I've never seen that anyone could replace one systemd component with an alternative implementation. Did you?
You’re commenting on a post by someone that managed to encapsulate a fully functional instance of an init manager, ripped out all of its default configuration, and replaced them with dummy files - just to find out the whole thing works exactly as documented.
And now you seriously argue this is brittle, non-straightforward, inflexible, and hard to verify? For real?
If I ever have seen a bloody well designed software system, it is this!
"Sane defaults", are you going to be arbiter of sanity? With the #3 recommendation, "set up systemd for me", I'd rather not have you at that position.
Most of the bullets you wrote induce a "...why?" thought in somebody that has ZFS experience. Why would you unify zpool and zfs? Why would you want automatic weekly scrubs on as default? Do you realize what ZFS scrubbing is and when is the time to perform it?
I'm a bit agitated by your writing I must confess. You want ZFS to exactly reflect your basic use case so you don't have to move your little finger (automatic naming, automagical configuration). It's not meant to be a hands-off filesystem, you are expected to understand encryption in ZFS in order to use it.
But the most annoying thing is that you did see a steeper learning curve, and want to avoid it. Why don't you write your own ZFS provisioning tool? Why are you still using /dev/sda and not disk-by-UUID or something more 2023? Etc.
Like I said, I just want a wrapper to make this stuff easier for me. It's just like not everyone wants all that comes with running Arch. Some people like having Ubuntu handle the nitty gritty of a Linux OS. What's wrong with that?
QA needs to be paid. Largely nobody is doing QA as a passion.
As for UX, if these are the same wizards working around Windows/mobile/web, then please keep them away by all means necessary.
QA needs to be paid as does programming. I imagine some people have a passion for it and could build automated qa tools around open source products. Say a gui tool that automates clicks on kde or gnome widgets. That would be quite a challenge in itself.
As for ux, open source is not a job. Ux folks are told my product managers to enshitify things on daily basis.
I imagine open source can provide a safe haven form all that and let people run wild beautiful ux and uis. Imagine someone working on the ux of a linux distro aimed at making onboarding of casual users easier.
Imagine a group of people putting together a nice set of guidelines for ui and ux similar to how apple has guidelines.
I think these are two areas where linux (distros) have gaps.
The simple part is UX people working with UX stuff, such as GTK or QT themes. The hard to impossible part is getting a typical open source UNIX desktop to look and behave as cohesive as Windows or Mac. It's a technology issue and not an asset issue.
As for beautiful UIs QT has made a step forward with the Qt Quick and Qt Designer which allow a more UX workflow for the UI as opposed to old school dialog/form design.
That list is not correct for Europe/Southern Europe at least.
Nobody expects anything. The most tipping is done by rounding up. You have a 1.8 euro bill for coffee, you leave 2 euro.
The biggest difference between NA and Europe is that in NA a lot of people work for tips, as in, they're going to try to service you to get them. This is not the way it works in Europe, waiters do appreciate tips especially in places that have lower purchasing power, they will take your order, bring your food, bring your bill, and be on disposal if you want to call them anytime, but they're not going to try to look outgoing and approachable and hassle you with "is everything ok" questions for better tip.
That's pure conjecture, you don't know that. Yes if you ask someone from continental part, on a typical central european estate, "do you like nudism" ofc the answer will be no. Ask people that live in the towns that have nudist zones under their jurisdiction, that's how you get relevant answers.
No, Croatia is not "very socially conservative". It is maybe a bit more conservative than typical EU state which is still way more progressive than American notion of "conservative" let alone "very conservative".
Then the thing is that places mentioned in the thread are not conservative at all. Coastal towns are not conservative.
I come from Split and I have never ever had any troubles or whatsoever of being shirtless. You know that we only have those fines because of uncultured tourists. Because they think they can enter museum or bank in their swimsuits.
Also there have always been undesignated nudist zones everywhere. There's one 20 minutes walk from Split downtown. On the islands, wherever urbanization stops, there could be naked people on the rocks of the shoreline. They just move a bit away, like 200-300m further from the last accessible beach in the area, and sun on the rocks. Every child that has spent more than 2-3 hours in a boat in Dalmatia was bound to see naked human genitalia up front or in the distance.
Just to add to this - I'm from Zagreb (Capital of Croatia, former Yugoslavia republic) - we literally have nudist beach a mile or two from strict center of the city (https://tourist.hr/place/nudist-beach-jarun).
>Then the thing is that places mentioned in the thread are not conservative at all. Coastal towns are not conservative.
Umm they are literally putting up boards that they will fine people walking shirtless on islands. Apparently they can't actually fine them because it's not based on any laws - but it's cities putting up these signs.
> Also there have always been undesignated nudist zones everywhere.
Designated or not is a technically, how many people out of general population actually go there ? This notion that it's generally acceptable - it's not. When I've wondered into to those places on Pag as a kid it was almost exclusively tourists and the locals would talk about it very judgementally.
>It is maybe a bit more conservative than typical EU state which is still way more progressive than American notion of "conservative" let alone "very conservative".
A country where we have like 50% of people vaccinated for COVID because of conspiracy theories fuelled by religious community ? Where 86% of population declared as Chatolic ? Where no doctor would perform an abortion on fetus with brain tumor because of call to consciousness (even when it was legal) and a woman had to go to Slovenia ?
Croatia is a religious and conservative country, comparing to US pointless, but pretending we're some progressive nudist friendly country is just counterfactual. We have nudist beaches, and people get naked on boats.
