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Because you need to hit bottom first on this issue before finding that bottom and deciding, enough is enough, and moving on. Just like you're beginning to do now, in fact, by making this post.

Trust me -- many people have been here where you are.

You appear to have the entrepreneurial spirit. The world needs more of us, actually. But get there wisely. Plan, prepare, make the exit, feel the "sink or swim" period, get used to it enough in the lows so that they don't scare you as much anymore, and then you'll soar just like I did.

Of course, having a spouse with a stable income sort of makes it a lot easier. :)


"Just like you're beginning to do now, in fact, by making this post."

I was a bit reluctant to post-didn't want people to know I struggled.

Maybe pride really is a deadly sin.


Then how come I get really bad headaches when eating the stuff, but not with sugar, HFCS, or saccharin?


There's obviously no way for anyone to claim that you specifically don't, but one of the studies I looked at (and there have been others) specifically used patients who believed they got headaches from aspartame. They turned out to be more likely to get one from the placebo control than from aspartame.


Why is this trending when this is actually the more important news story?

http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=1383525


Everyone knows that IPv4 is running out; we've known for years. That's non-news. (You can tell because CNN is covering it.) The story is how people are fixing the problem.

Also, your "buy gold" quip gets an insta-flag for scaremongering.


Try and draw me a line between scaremongering and being realistic about forecasts?


This sounds like a variant of Poe's law.


IP v4 is never going to run out. As it gets more scarce, it will get more carefully used (more NAT, smaller subnets, more services sharing IPs) and more costly, but it's not going to RUN RUN RUN THUMP in a sharp cutoff like Y2K.

Thus, it isn't an important news story at all.

And isn't gold at record high levels recently?


If it's not called run out, what do you call it when a company goes to their RIR with a well-justified request and is told "Sorry, that's a great request -- sure -- but we don't have a block to give you."

If that's not a sharp cutoff, I don't know what is. If you're a hosting company, what do you do when your customer growth outpaces your ability to procure IP addresses?


But the Y2K bug was a problem for the whole world at 11:59:59 on the last day of 1999, and no amount of money could buy you more time or undo the consequences - that's a sharp cutoff.

When you go to your RIR and get nothing, I accept it might be technically "run out" in some sense, but all your current customers will be OK, money will buy you someone elses spare block, adjustments to NAT and IP sharing and load balancing, sharing and tightening subnets will free up space in your existing assignments, that's not a sharp cutoff in anything like the same way.

And even if you accept it as a sharp cutoff, with Y2K you could get people in to check your code and have it ready and know you would be OK - what can you do to ready yourself for IPv6? Support routing, tunnelling and admin/billing it, yes, but when you can't get IPv4 addresses anymore you're still in almost the same position as any other company - your new customers can only have an IPv6 address ... So it's not like considering it as an IPocalypse even helps that much - no changes that you can make on your own can significantly improve your situation, without rest of world all changing as well.

So worry and panic - not much point. Imminent disaster - hardly. Some economic slowdown which you can't do anything about, maybe, as you host IPv6 services which people around the world on ISPs with no 4 to 6 service cannot access. That's about it.


Technically, IPv4 runout occurs when the RIRs have nothing to give, but realistically there will be prefixes for sale on the market at that time so we won't be "out" of addresses. If you can't afford to buy addresses at the market price then you've run out, but the world hasn't.


Exactly.


Agree -- IPv4 would never run out. I even think that scarcity of IP addresses could be a good thing. IP address can accumulate your reputation (as a non-spammer, for example). And if new IP address is not available for free -- it would make life of spammers harder.


http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=ipv4+*+run+out+by|i...

Because we've been almost out of ipv4 addresses forever and nobody has an accurate prediction as to when it will really start to matter.


Oh wow. That sucks. Here I am pumped about the future of Android and I didn't realize this. Google, please fix -- I know you read Hacker News.


Do you guys feel what I'm feeling? I'm feeling a general lack of mindshare on new development and new technology coming out of Microsoft. Linux, Mac, and Droid is where it's at -- where developers are flocking because of the cheaper costs, better direction without getting screwed over, stronger security, wider community base, and more innovation. It's coming to a point where you see more non-Microsoft platform developers than Microsoft platform developers. And Windows is popup and virus city.


They should have just stuck with making a keyboardless tablet like the iPad.


Oh that's just crazy. I just clicked that link but didn't click Confirm because ?u= is someone else's user ID.

What's sad is that because it's numeric, you can run down a whole list of IDs, opting people out or in.

So what's k stand for, crc32() or something like that on the u parameter?


You should never expose internal incremental user ids in URLs like these. Have a combination of guids that links to the user id in your database.


Darn, I thought this was going to be about a woman dropped in water, connected to sensors and drugged, who would dream about pre-crime. Man, that would make a great movie, wouldn't it?


When you add everything up, there's no way that Apple can maintain dominance here. I mean, Google's Android is going to kill Apple's mobile OS. It costs manufacturers virtually nothing to license and use it on their hardware. And China is going to keep on shipping the cheaper hardware.


Is Dell "dominant" over Apple, because they sell larger volumes of cheaper machines?

Consider: There have literally always been cheaper MP3 players than the iPod. At every single point in the product's history.


In terms of amount of customers worldwide they serve compared to the number of customers Apple serves with their equivalent products? I'd go with yes.


I think quite the opposite. When you build something expensive and sell it for higher prices, you are attracting wealthy people, who will spend more and more if they like your products.

This is why Apple launched iPod, iPhone, iPad. They have a small/wealthy audience, which makes them profitable more than the larger audience.


It's not about technology or price, it's about image. And apple rocks in this regard.


That's all about to change once Google gets their low-cost tablet out. You can already get an APad, but it's not very big. Another problem is that Android apps only have a small form factor and aren't designed yet for the larger screens.


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