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I didn't write the blog post. Tom MacWright did. :)


Hi, I made this submission. If you want a take on the competition (Dat:// and Beaker Browser) I made another submission here:

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=20162199

Direct link:

https://www.kickscondor.com/on-dat/


Try https://www.startpage.com/

Works as proxy for Google Search. No captchas, very customizable. Could never live with the Bing based crap results of DuckDuckGo.


Oh DDG gas been my primary search engine for ages now. Highly recommend DDG. No CAPTCHAS there - it is just on random other sites that use reCAPTCHA that are a pain now as I believe (I don't know for sure) that Google relies on your Google cookie(s) that they have associated with your account - if you have sandboxed Google then there is no "normal" browsing history to check so you look like a bot. Annoying, but not really a big deal.

I don't think having proxied Google search results will solve the reCAPTCHA menace since you presumably won't get the Google cookie(s)? If Google still cookie you when using startpage then that kinda defeats the point surely?


> I don't think having proxied Google search results will solve the reCAPTCHA menace since you presumably won't get the Google cookie(s)? If Google still cookie you when using startpage then that kinda defeats the point surely?

Let me be clear. I'm not taking about SOCKS proxies. In this context I'm saying that both DDG and StartPage are acting as anonymizing proxies for Bing and Google.


Whatever DDG does to Bing, it makes it worse. I recently switched from DDG to Bing and the difference is colossal - 95% of the time it’s as good as Google.


But non-proxied Bing results are still far worse than Google, so I chose StartPage. :)


> On that note, are people switching over to Firefox already?

Not sure why power users ever left Firefox as their default browser when surveillance tech came along. I sure didn't. Firefox was always the more competent and customizable browser. Happy to see users returning. Among other things, the current "Welcome Chromium/Chrome users!" megathread in the Firefox subreddit[1] seems to indicate there's something going on. :)

[1] https://www.reddit.com/r/firefox/comments/bvh4pq/welcome_chr...


I switched because CPU usage on Mac OS was so much higher under Firefox than Chrome. I tried so many different things, following suggestions in Bugzilla, HN comments and just about every site I could find through DDG and Google. Nothing worked, and usually when I bring it up people dismiss the complaint with "it's better than it used to be", "it's not that bad" or "it's just you". But I'm not the only person complaining (or being dismissed outright).

To be clear, it's not pegging any core at 100% or anything so extreme. But it causes my laptop to heat up and my fans to kick in very frequently - something that almost never happens with Chromium/Webkit/Blink based browsers. If I primarily used a desktop, I wouldn't even have noticed, but a warm lap and constant fan noise makes it unusable for me.

Safari was out because I needed to run multiple browser profiles concurrently (something Firefox and Chrome support readily).

I've recently switched from Mac OS to Windows but my experience (as recently as a month ago) with Firefox leaves me feeling that it's the less mature implementation with an over zealous fan base ("it's not us, it's you!").


I flicked between multiple browsers at work since the Chrome news dropped. Having used Chrome for many years.

Firefox always had and still has an issue which can cause up to 2x page load times when used on Mac with scaled mode. Fascinating bug report but ultimately impossible to cope with at work!

I’ve actually landed up using Safari (I rarely use dev tools) and pleasantly surprised by it.


I never understood the appeal of Chrome over Firefox in the beginning.


It was faster, especially for JavaScript heavy sites... Which is the majority of sites these days it seems.

It took a couple years at least for FF to catch up. I would say for most sites Firefox is now at least as fast while using less RAM.

Now the problem is that Google web apps are tuned for Chrome, so users will complain their gmail is slow on FF.


> Now the problem is that Google web apps are tuned for Chrome, so users will complain their gmail is slow on FF.

I've heard this argument often, but it does not really resonate with me well. I've always used Gmail in Firefox and never noticed it being especially slow. I just tried it now and emails open seemingly instantly when I click on them. It feels quicker than ~100ms on average and certainly not slower than 200ms even for the occasional large email or hiccup. I just don't see how this can be used as a reasonable metric for choosing a browser.


> Not sure why power users ever left Firefox as their default browser when surveillance tech came along.

On any Firefox thread on HN, search for “macOS” and you’ll find several complaints. In my case, I could live with most of Firefox’s problems, but not the lack of AppleScript support.


I'm writing this from Firefox to test if it's still unusable on Mac. It's not that bad as before, to be honest. But for some reason now I can't synchronize it on Android... hopefully after another few years I will be finally able to switch over to it.


Which system? More smoothly?


It's difficult to pin-point these things, especially from the inside. I have Psoriasis since 30 years back, which in turn has something to do with a stressed immune system, which in turn depends on intestinal and stomach health. Drinking the healing soil improves the condition a lot for me, as does dissolving it in oil and rubbing into the skin.


Glad it helps. :)


> most modern gaming is going to have a much more pronounced preservation issue.

That's putting it mildly. Gameplay videos is all that's going to be left for plenty of games.


The level of data recorded...

Surveillance on 4 wheels.


The problem isn't that the data is collected, it's that Tesla is the one collecting it and not the owner. But honestly, the average person isn't going to care about or even be capable of maintaining that. So really we could just consider this to be a valuable service Tesla is offering. Even more so, imagine if Tesla had to defend their driving systems from lawsuits without having access to this data. I'm not sure they'd be able to survive as well as they do.


> The problem isn't that the data is collected, it's that Tesla is the one collecting it and not the owner.

If the data is recorded, it will be in Teslas possession by the next over air update or service, right?

> imagine if Tesla had to defend their driving systems from lawsuits without having access to this data.

Well, that's exactly what the automotive industry has been able to do up to very recently. Just because technology allows for it doesn't mean society or the consumers should.


> If the data is recorded, it will be in Teslas possession by the next over air update or service, right?

> Well, that's exactly what the automotive industry has been able to do up to very recently.

What's your point?

> Just because technology allows for it doesn't mean society or the consumers should.

I don't know what you're referring as 'it'. Data? Sending to Tesla? Assisted driving?


So, here's a thing to work on... This is what I did:

I went to the landing page and though: sounds good. But version 56? When was this last updated? Firefox is long beyond 56. Went to the "releases" page and found nothing about when 56.2.10 was released. Had to go to their Twitter account to find out it's dated 2019-05-20.

I would also recommend renaming the "releases" page to "download" if you wish to reach beyond the geek pool.

EDIT: release dates are also in the blog...


> As art, it's good work.

As art and photography I find this series of images weak and without direction. Lost me completely when the photographer or his friends (?) started showing up in the pictures ( https://main-designyoutrust.netdna-ssl.com/wp-content/upload... ). Typical Instagram buildering [1] shots.

[1] https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buildering



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