I think a CBA could make sense for Klarna, but not necessarily for Spotify.
Separately: A company with a CBA is a red flag to me. I think that CBAs and unions is what have kept tech salaries artificially low here, compared to e.g. US tech salaries.
You are free to work for companies without a CBA in Sweden, such as most companies under 20 employees.
However I have seen way too many of my developer peers fall for this ”CBA bad” plot. The result is often bad total compensation where e.g. pensions is not nearly as good as with a CBA. There are of course exceptions, but you really have to do your homework.
If you want higher compensation in Sweden you probably want to be a standout performer early in your career. Then once you’ve built a good network you can pivot to running your own consultancy business and charge good rates.
It is also not impossible to get local employment at a company with presence in the US and eventually transfer there and get that high US tech salary. (But you might be in for a surprise what the cost of living actually is in the US, especially if you need healthcare or daycare and education for any kids.)
Finally tech salaries can be pretty good in Sweden if you provide good value to your employer, can argue for that, and is ready to jump ship every now and then.
What I believe keeps salaries low at some workplaces in Sweden is our reluctance to talk and compare our compensation with our peers. There are many devs here that provide good value yet does not know their market rate.
Where does the money in tech companies in Europe go? In the US, despite tech being one of the best paying working class jobs, the execs, shareholders etc make a significantly more amount of money than the workers.
How much profit/revenue does the average engineer in Klarna bring vs, say square in the US?
The Danish government owns 50.1% of Ørsted. (See: https://orsted.com/en/investors/shares - "Danish State (majority stakeholder)) It's effectively a state company. So, when you think Ørsted, instead think Denmark.
It’s possible for there to be a distinction between state-owned and state-run (see the BBC). Perhaps you could discuss why you think it is state-run rather than just state-owned instead of resorting to insults.
I responded to an insult. And I was being factual. Please reflect on your own behavior.
And no, no there is no BBC-like distinction here. Ørsted is company run by the Danish government, period. The link above should be proof enough to any thinking person.
We've banned this account for repeatedly posting flamewar comments and ignoring our many requests to stop. You've resumed doing it a great deal lately, and that is not ok—no matter how right you are or feel you are, and no matter how wrong others are or you feel they are.
I mean, both GPS and WiFi was super exciting stuff in the early 2000s. There was a GPS magazine for GPS terminal enthusiasts (!). It's still sort of around: https://www.gpsworld.com/.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Astra_(satellite)