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Hmm. I know Django admin is one of the best things about Django... but why $1m? If each developer gets paid $200k/yr, that's 5 developers for 1 year? Sounds crazy to me.


Yeah, that sounds about right to me.

The admin has a a LOT of features.

More importantly, it's been continuously evolving for nearly 20 years at this point.

Anyone who's actually tried to do a from-scratch rewrite of a system that has 20 years of development behind it will know that 5 engineers for a year is probably optimistic!


Given the flexibility and depth of the django admin, 5 good developers working on it for 1 year sounds about right.

200k/year might sound like a lot but then in a real business there are various overhead costs as well.

I'd say $1m is probably on the lower side of the estimate. Factoring in project delays and misc Murphy law things, wouldn't be surprised if a mediocre team underdelivers with a crappy immitation of the django admin interface after blowing through a couple mil.


There is the frontend and the backend, the whole introspection stack, the admin customization layer, and the integration with permission, filtering, caching, etc.

Add on top of that documentation, testing, and making the whole thing completely independent and pluggable (as django must work without it) but perfectly integrated with it (settings, forms, template overrides, etc).

That's a lot.

You might get feature parity with less, but not with the same guarantees of stability and maturity.


Also a project manager, and one of those is a lead developer/architect. One year is not a lot of time, either.


What's surprising to me is that they always hype these pilots as being the most high-trained and smartest people in the planet.... and more often than not it sounds like they don't know what parallax is?


It's ineptitude. It's always been ineptitude.


One can be a criminal fraud and inept at the same time so.


Django Admin is pretty cool.

It's not uncommon when starting a new project that I pick Django just to have Admin, and then ignore its usual views altogether.


what other stack would you pick if it also had admin?


I don't know, but also this is not a question that interests me. I'm not looking for tech for the sake of tech. I'm looking to solve my problems, and this solves my problems - that's all I care about.


> It has long been known that people can form defenses and thus antibodies against viruses. But antibodies can also develop against polyethylene glycol (PEG), a substance used in cosmetics, food and medicine.

People can develop antibodies against things which are not foreign micro-organisms. TIL.

(Obvious once you think about it. What you really develop antibodies to are proteins on the surface of micro-organisms)

Well, talk about a worldview-changing moment.


> People can develop antibodies against things which are not foreign micro-organisms. TIL.

Well yeah- that's how many (most?) resistance to toxins works. When you are given pit viper antivenom, it's literally a bunch of sheep antibodies that attach to the venom molecules and neutralize them and/or make them easier to get rid of.

You do the same thing for novel toxins as you develop a tolerance to them. Alcohol and peroxide have specific enzymes that are produced to break them down, but the immune system is responsible for a ton of stuff.

I am not an expert but I do know it's heinously complex- there are tons of different pathways that are activated by a combination of foreign substances and/or different types of cellular damage (not to mention location in the body). Anaphylactic allergies are controlled by different types of antibodies in different cells that react to different types of damage, normal allergies are a whole other thing, blood antibodies are yet another (multiple types!) of thing...

Biologists are amazing. It seems like picking diamonds off the beach. The book documenting the (public) operation of a new CPU is 10k+ pages long, but a single mammalian cell (taking up <<.001% of the area) makes that CPU look like a joke.


I don’t think the news here is that PEG can be targeted by antibodies (research companies have been manufacturing anti-PEG antibodies for decades), but that anti-PEG arises naturally (and frequently!) in the adaptive immune system.

Might be a good biomarker to adjust dosing and estimated pharmacokinetics of PEGylated drugs; it might make sense to take another look at PEG-based therapies that failed Phase II/III with this new finding in mind?


>but that anti-PEG arises naturally (and frequently!) in the adaptive immune system.

According to the PEG wiki, that has apparently been known for decades.


In other words, allergies.


Yes but no. Allergies are a very particular reaction- you don't get allergy symptoms when you're sick. They're predominantly IgE (immunoglobulin E) which is a detector antibody rather than a neutralizing antibody (although those terms aren't really favored now). IgE activates a body response like anaphylaxis.

The antibodies in this study are IgG (the "normal" antibody) and IgM. In this case, these antibodies latch onto and neutralize/clean up the antigen. They cause much less of an immune system activation, and can act like a passive defense.

TL;DR: allergies are a subset of antibodies for substances, and in this case the antibodies found were non-allergenic.


PEG is not a protein. And you can definitely get antibodies against anything. There's an idiot researcher trying to get people to make antibodies against cocaine.

The bonkers thing about this is that adding PEG is supposed to be a strategy to get things to evade the immune system.


Isn't that what allergies are?


FINALLY we're getting to the point. The problem with facebook is first and foremost that it is addictive and was engineered to be addictive. About time.



I'm not sure what's your point, that hardly looks like a math heavy degree


I don't have a point, I was linking for those who aren't aware of the British term "PPE"


Oh I see, I was confused because I didn't mention PPE in my comment, maybe you meant to answer to the other top level comment which does use this abbreviation!


Calling SBF "a math snob" kind of implies his problem was just a miscalculation.

No, he's a swindler.


I use xournal to add signatures (just pngs) and text to pdfs.


I was gonna say "run it in the stars", but yours is funnier for some reason :-)


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