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We’re using Greylog+Elastic Search which would totally replace a Loki-only stack.

I’d say 99% of the poor are in the first two categories. So I don’t really care if the third category gets some stuff too if it means we help everyone else.

I sure see a lot of people in category 3

Oh really? Where? How can you tell they're reckless or lazy and not (e.g.) disabled?

It's pretty easy to see when someone spends money like an idiot

The spectre of the "wasteful welfare recipient" is invoked constantly, but I've never seen any of these people. The poor people I've known are, by necessity, quite careful with money.

Agreed. I was nodding along with the GP right up until their ending statement, yikes.

My wife grew up very poor and does the same stuff. And then she’ll get mad at me if I finish the stale cookie from 6 months ago.

It’s like a bunch of apes took over our society and worked as hard as possible to make everything as cruel as possible for no particular reason.

Hah!

Yeah, the bonobo/chimp contrast shows it’s not an inevitability. We just optimized for the wrong equilibrium.


The difference between bonobos and chimps are genetics and not culture, you can't train chimps to live like bonobos and vice versa.

Us humans still has the genes that made us conquer and enslave the whole world, every single human culture that has ever existed enslave and murder animals, as we needed to do that to survive. You ain't gonna change those genes, so we just have to do the best we can with the genes we have and our genes are like Chimpanzees in that we want to murder and eat and exploit others, without that humans didn't get b12 and died out, so all our ancestors lived that way.


Farming is an invention, the majority of human history was spent without farming of any kind, something like 80% of human history was in the hunter/gatherer phase.

We should not underestimate the fact that where we excel is that we are better at passing off information to our offspring. This makes improvement over long periods possible as we can build off the backs of our ancestors.


you can convince people to give up anything as long as it's in service of punishing "the bad ones"

What you’re describing is a risk/reward approach to decision making. But in practice many execs do not follow this calculus.

Isn’t that very close to the practical limit for cooling in a lab?

Not that hard. A dilution fridge, used for instance for cooling quantum computers, can go much lower:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dilution_refrigerator


fwiw I bought a two-year old Garmin model on clearance like 5 years ago and they continued to support it all the way up until I bought an Instinct 2 this year. So I think you’ll be happy with the support you get.

If we needed it for war, I suspect everyone involved would be eager to eliminate the restrictions.

You would think so, but I’m not so sure. In Canada, during World War II, the federal government passed the law restricting municipal councils from their ability to prohibit people from renting out rooms in their homes to war workers. Vancouver city council, weighing the pros and cons of Hitler and the risk of tenants, living nearby, try to weasel their way out of it.

https://www.abundanthousingvancouver.com/vancouver_s_rocky_s...

> The response from Vancouver council was swift. Less than a year after the introduction of Order 200, council ordered a bylaw amendment expressly designed to constrain the order as much as possible. The city was still bound by the terms of the order for existing homes, but they could use a legal loophole to ensure that it did not apply to new homes. The city’s chief lawyer Donald McTaggart was incredulous:

The corporation counsel told the committee that the amendment it suggests will be quite legal, but he expressed the opinion that the idea of Order 200 is “being lost sight of.” ... “The government,” he reminded aldermen, “said ‘forget zoning bylaws’ for the sake of getting on with the war.”


If you saw some of the videos from India of their hospitals being overwhelmed and of people being given welding gas for oxygen because they couldn’t produce pure gas fast enough you might not have considered it an overreaction. They were cremating so many people at once it was a major contributor to air pollution during one major outbreak.

The real danger for most people wasn’t the virus, it was the hospitals being so overwhelmed by the virus that they would no longer be able to provide care for other stuff.


Excellent point. Some of this happened in America too, though not to the same horrific extent as India. Iirc hospitals in Florida nearly ran out of oxygen and in some cases patients died for lack of oxygen.

New York City had to bring in extra capacity to store and transport the dead bodies. It happened here. It was that bad here

It was not overblown.

Covid was the #1 killer of cops for a while. It killed enough old people that it is mathematically possible that it caused Trump to lose the election.

Tons of people are permanently disabled.


They have a very “citizen pick up that can” feel to them.

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