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I get this feeling that AI might be like full self driving in 2016. Elon said in months it would be solved. It seemed like it might be true, but it wasn't.

One thing I definitely know is that no middle manager is showing up to work on Monday saying they could replace their team with an LLM. Every person that manages a team will fight to keep their status.


It seems like battery technology hasn't improved much since the model s was introduced.

A 2012 Toyota Camry was rated around 28 mpg combined. A 2025 is rated at 46 mpg combined. That's a 60 percent improvement.

I don't think the model s has seen anywhere near a 60 percent improvement in range or efficiency during the same time span.


The earth has had some of the fastest warming ever in the last 15 thousand. During this time crop yields have increased dramatically. The trend is unmistakable, the warmer the planet, the more food we produce.


Depends on source of your information.

Hot Weather.—Many a man has mopped his brow during the summer months of 1884, declaring it was the hottest weather the world ever knew, which, of course, would not be true, for the extreme heat in the record of the past has not been approached during the late summer.

In 627, the heat was so great in France and Germany, says the London Standard, that all springs dried up; water became so scarce that many people died of thirst.

In 879, work in the field had to be given up; agricultural laborers persisting in their work were struck down in a few minutes, so powerful was the sun. In 993, the sun’s rays were so fierce that vegetation burned up as under the action of fire. In 1000, rivers ran dry under the protracted heat, the fish were left dry in heaps and putrefied in a few hours. Men and animals venturing in the sun in the summer of 1022 fell down dying.

In 1132, not only did the rivers dry up, but the ground cracked and became baked to the hardness of stone. The Rhine in Alsace nearly dried up. Italy was visited with terrific heat in 1189; vegetation and plants were burned up. During the battle of Bela, in 1200, there were more victims made by the sun than by weapons; men fell down sunstruck in regular rows. The sun of 1277 was also severe; there was an absolute dearth of forage.

In 1303 and 1304, the Rhine, Loire, and Seine ran dry. In 1615, the heat throughout Europe became excessive. Scotland suffered particularly in 1625; men and beasts died in scores. Meat could be cooked by merely exposing it to the sun. Not a soul dared to venture out between noon and 4 p.m. In 1718, many shops had to be closed; the theatres were never opened for several months. Not a drop of water fell during six months.

In 1753 the thermometer rose to one hundred and eighteen degrees. In 1779, the heat at Bologna was so great that a large number of people died. In July 1793, the heat became intolerable. Vegetables were burned up and fruit dried upon the trees. The furniture and woodwork in dwelling-houses cracked and split up; meat became bad in an hour.

In Paris in 1846, the thermometer marked one hundred and twenty-five degrees in the sun. The summers of 1859, 1860, 1869, 1870, 1874, etc., although excessively hot, were not attended by any disaster.”

- source: https://books.google.com/books/about/Gaillard_s_Medical_Jour... - page 473.


Only in regards to the rivers drying out. At that time those rivers weren’t canals like since the 19th century. They where much larger and had more „siderivers“ so water could get into the ground etc much more easily.


100% of people who mistake correlation for causation end up dead.


All the climate modelling is based on correlation, so I thought that's what we were doing. Is there another approach we should be taking?


Mate, it's not, it's based on extraordinarily well understood theories around the how chemical bonds and the electromagnetic spectrum work. That is the theory behind the mechanism for anthropogenic climate change is based on exactly the same science that allows big chunks of the infrastructure of civilisation to work - that is, chemistry, quantum physics and arithmetic/accountancy.


Dude no. We know that the gasses we are releasing cause warming and we know the ratio of those gases naturally occurring vs human pollution.


How do you know?


We know because it’s measurable.

You. Literally YOU. Can trivially measure the impact of different gases on temperature.

Telling the difference between natural and human produced is probably not doable by you personally, however, human burned pollution tends to have different atomic markers from naturally occurring. We have mandatory pollution reporting. We can do basic maths to find reasonably close numbers to how much of the pollution is natural and how much is from us.

With regard to “the prediction models are always wrong” fake news propaganda bullshit:

They are always wrong in a way that’s worse for us by underestimating the bad impacts. Every time we improve the models, the outcomes are worse even faster than the models predict, and we have to find why.


Yet you don't know nothing, you believe in catastrophic scenarios.

We can measure anecdotaly that temperature is slightly rising. The reason why is it happening and happend in history multiple times is topic for debate that we can explore.

However your tone is not open for debate and use exactly same words as those you fight against.


It is not “up for debate” that various gasses cause a rise in temperature.

You are pretending that our scientific knowledge is at 1600 levels to come to your insane conclusions.

You claim that I’m not open for debate, but it’s actually just that there is no debate here. You’re a just printing demonstrable lies on to the internet, for what?


Cutting to the guts of the question:

> How do you know?

posed in ignorance (perhaps genuine ignorance, perhaps feigned) above, we (humans) have been measuring gas properties in isolation for 200 years (and more) and have been specifically measuring (and storing as bottled samples) atmospheric gas composition since the start of the Cold War.. seventy odd years or so now.

Much of our high quality environmental data comes from cold war research - ocean tempretures were first mapped at large scale by Scripps in order to use thermoclines to pinpoint submarines and other sounds in water.

In the civilian arena, Cape Grim is of interest: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cape_Grim_Air_Archive

https://researchdata.edu.au/cape-grim-air-archive/678420

This and other global references informs us about the changing atmospheric makeup and other experiments inform us about the increase in trapped heat from incoming solar radiation.


Those data from measured ocean temperature needs to be readjusted:

Before about 1940, the most common method for measuring sea surface temperature was to throw a bucket attached to a rope overboard from a ship, haul it back up, and read the water temperature. The method was far from perfect. Depending on the air temperature, the water temperature could change as the bucket was pulled from the water. (1)

In the late 1970s ... tracking what was happening to Earth temperatures was at a relatively primitive state. Much of the relevant weather station data had not been digitized and what had been, was not widely available. Previous estimates of temperature changes ... had focused on the northern hemisphere, but that obviously missed half the planet. (2) interactive map: (3)

There is analysis showing differences in model temperature variation models and actual data from balloons and satellites since 1979. (4)

Those are few examples how our ability to measure things changes with our developing knowledge.

Rising temperatures is not new phenomena. Greenland ice core project (5) showing that there was about 25 dramatic climate changes in history. Its called Dansgaard–Oeschger event. (6), (7) and shows that for example during Younger Dryas (8) there was dramatic temperature decline and increase in few decades.

Making predictions on data since 70's are fragile and should be constantly reanalyzed.

(1) https://climate.nasa.gov/explore/ask-nasa-climate/3071/the-r...

(2) https://data.giss.nasa.gov/gistemp/history/

(3) https://data.giss.nasa.gov/gistemp/station_data_v4_globe/

(4) https://naturalresources.house.gov/uploadedfiles/christytest...

(5) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greenland_ice_core_project

(6) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dansgaard%E2%80%93Oeschger_eve...

(7) https://www.ncei.noaa.gov/sites/default/files/2021-11/2%20He...

(8) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Younger_Dryas


You've provided links to things the vast bulk of people in earth sciences, particularly climatic related earth and atmospherics are already well aware of.

Yet they, in near majority, still stand behind the broad predictions of future climate change - even being aware of the work of Smale and Lorenz .. perhaps it's that 40+ year old understanding of stability, robustness, and the Dzhanibekov effect in which the broad arc of motion is entirely predictable despite wobbles on a minor axis or two.

Normalisation and may other adjustments to data sets are stock in trade operations across all the observational sciences- geophysical mineral exploration, radiometric surveying, radio astronomy, distributed signal aquisition, etc. etc. etc. You'll note for example that NASA et al are out in front about doing such things.

Predictions of trains headed for derailment based on speed, mass, and topography are not refuted by an inability to predict where the centrepiece vase in the dining car comes to rest.


Problem is that speed is unknown variable that change with our knowledge. Yet, we make conclusions, over 50 years, that was and still are false.

From history we know, how terrified population is easier to manipulate by those who offer easy solutions.


You're not making a STEM case that the AGW argument is flawed.

The physics is sound. The grasp of physics many dissenters have is not.


you might get similar percentages in the other direction...


Maybe your next car will run on smugness.


I've been a terrible sleeper for about a decade. Weeks on end where I am only sleeping a few hours a night. Can't fall asleep, can't stay asleep, just tired all the time. Tried all the sleep hygiene recommendations but made no difference.

Started supplementing with creatine and about a month later had the best sleep of my adult life.

Shortly after switching creatine brands, I noticed my restless legs were back and I couldn't get to sleep. Switched back to the first creatine brand and a couple weeks later and I am sleeping again.

I don't know if the creatine helps me sleep. I started taking it because I heard on a podcast that it can help prevent cognitive decline as I age. I also started breathing through my nose when I try to sleep so maybe that was what made the difference.


> A major negative is that marijuana is usually grown with heavy pesticide use (even the certified organic stuff) so unless you grow it yourself it isn't really healthy.

Is there a source for this?


I'd worry about what else is in the one that helps you sleep to cause there to be a difference.


Or perhaps there is something lacking in the brand that does not help them sleep? By that I mean maybe there is less creatine than claimed, or it is supplied in a form that is harder to digest.


Really hard to know, but the creatine that didn't seem to help was a cheaper, bulk buy. My guess is that it wasn't as much creatine as it said. Unfortunately, I feel like there is a lot of misrepresentation around supplements.


That is of course also an option, but a less scary one


Any chance there was potassium in the one that helped RLS? K is a common relief for it.


Or very worth it I guess.


He doesn't suffer cognitive dissonance.


His reality distortion field prevents him from feeling that.


Being the smartest man on the planet means you can make the mental leaps to see that was them and this is him so it is totally different.


No, he enjoys cognitive dissonance.


That's awesome.


Does twitter have a current transparency policy that would provide any reasonable evidence that this type of behavior has stopped?


Stopped??? My god, the whole point is that now you need to be a friend of Elon to get stuff you don’t like removed.


They seem to be trying to keep anything critical of Elon off the front page.


I'm giving you an upvote for visibility but I don't think it's a conspiracy just tribalism causing people to protect their "side".

I was expecting Kayne West being banned again to be the top post.


Any evidence?


Not really. I just noticed that yesterday one of the top stories on HN was coinbase vs Apple. Yet earlier in the week there were hardly any stories of Elon vs Apple.

Obviously Elon declaring war on Apple was the much bigger story. People on twitter were ready to burn their iPhones in support. It even had politicians threatening to get congress to go after Apple on behalf of Elon.


I have to agree with this.

So much has been going with Twitter that it was odd that nothing appeared on HN.


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