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Re: rdl's comment, I'm not sure. I'm not experienced with YCombinator process or startups, but can't the founders explain their application was sent as of the submission date (weeks or days before), and then explain during the interview about the important changes? I mean, Parkinson's Law is in play with entrepreneurship big time.


What kind of application is it? Promoting it in front of niche communities and giving them benefits to share your app would go a long way in terms of building your own community.


Find some potential VCs. Research the hell outta them to find their interests and what makes them tick. Then, when the opportunity comes to provide them value, be proactive about it. Give it time to build relationship until you can meet in person and go from there.

Alternatively, you can fly out to different conferences in order to meet them in person to kickstart the relationship.


Which direction do you want to take this discussion?



No problem.


Have you referred to the case studies in the 4 Hour Workweek or $100 Startup? Email me at stanley at sysil dot com if you still like to chat.


You mentioned the need to develop concrete examples showing how rewriting copy is worthwhile. However, even if you're starting out for free, you won't have examples to show for it. How appropriate do you think it is to show other people's examples before doing for free to gather your own examples?


I'm not sure I understand your question. My suggestion is to seek out copy to rewrite by mining projects posted on HN, take the initiative to rewrite it and then present the new copy to the project owner. The project owner can use it as they see fit or not at all. But it may open up doors for actual paid work or at least provide testimonials, references, examples to show potential paying clients and demonstrate some value. Perhaps it won't work. And it may help to prove whether there is a viable market or not.


I like your idea, it's pretty similar to what I've been thinking. I think I see what ssylee is getting at, that it might be a bit weird or rude to just show up with someone's polished up writing without getting their permission first. I'd rather they come to me.

Again, I think it's a good idea. Execution is key here.


Right. I certainly wasn't suggesting to improve and publish someone else's copy without their permission. I meant for you to polish their copy and then approach them with it. Some may see it as weird or rude, but probably not if you broach the subject correctly. You wouldn't want to come of as a comment troll nitpicking minor grammar mistakes. You are doing them a favor – providing your editing and writing services for free. But hopefully they would agree to provide a reference or testimonial, and maybe they would pay you to do more. Execution is key. If clients just came to you, you probably wouldn't be asking.


You forgot talent.me


If you're interested in making more money with iOS apps, hit me up at stanley at sysil dot com, and I'd love to chat with you privately.


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