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Or 2 years for Heidegger?

Final Fantasy VII and it’s remakes have done their part.

Same. Maybe this thread can lead a resurgence of the word “Panglossian”.

Rather than call the Amazon execs liars and sadists perhaps consider that the senior execs (Andy and his directs) believe that they are responsible for crafting a successful company. It is far more plausible that they believe that while it may have worked to have remote workers, that they WANT a company that has the features of an in-office culture and feel it is within their right to take that path.

Unless you think that you would be a lying sadist if you rose the ranks to senior leadership, why do you think that the Amazon leaders are somehow different?


Actually I was being charitable. I was only assuming their decision is from spite. If I also assumed they thought this was good for the company in the long run, I'd have to assume they were idiots.

There is no rational, data-driven argument against optional remote work. Even the one downside of it (not getting promoted) could be solved by an employee just opting to go into the office.

Everything else is a plus, for the company and the employee. The company saves on real estate, salaries, can hire anywhere in the world, and gets increased productivity [and profit]. The employee gets flexible hours, choice of living arrangements, and improved quality of life, which then benefits the company as improved morale/loyalty.


> There is no rational, data-driven argument against optional remote work

If we ignore tangentially relevant (from the company's perspective) stuff like employee wellbeing etc. the same could be said about WFH.


Sure, but employees are not machines and companies should realize this. Amazon is getting far too comfortable biting the hand that feeds them. Employees aren't underlings of your company; they ARE your company. The fact they all got together is what makes it a company. So, what happens if you hurt them?


I feel like you inadvertently touched on the part we're upset about: this is happening because a bunch of extremely wealthy privileged people want some experience in a company for their satisfaction. Not because it's the best way to run a business or to maximize profits, but because it just feels good for them.

This is upsetting in a world where I need my job to not be homeless, to feed my family, and have really basic things like healthcare. My ability to literally just stay alive is being interfered with by the whims of corporate royalty.


> My ability to literally just stay alive is being interfered with by the whims of corporate royalty.

Oh please. You can choose from tons of low paying job which do not have offices (mainly to save costs) and are permanently remote. What you seem to be looking is Amazon level salaries but none of Amazon like workplace rules.


so i have to uproot my job, career, possibly move cities, find new schools for all my kids, and spend tens of thousands on moving costs because a bunch of amazon execs want to swing their dick around?

my point is they are interfering. not that they aren't legally allowed to, or that i can't find work elsewhere. they're making the lives of thousands of people really difficult because of personal preferences, which is my problem.


This makes me think of that show from Japan where parents send their 5-year-olds to go grocery shopping on their own.

And reminds me of the many times friends and I rode our bikes 5 miles along the highway to the next town so we could play video games at an arcade. Growing up in the 80’s was very different from now.


I am willing to pay to have the physical interface built if anyone with the machinist/electrical engineering skills is interested. My vision is to have the screen and button interface built, with a Raspberry Pi powering it. Reply if interested.



It's a shame that this out of date/meme stuff continues to give MongoDB a bad rap. It's a great DB if you need to be flexible/move fast and avoid migration headaches (speaking first hand, this has dragged dev cycles quite a bit). Most startups/saas/web apps would benefit greatly from using MongoDB purely from a reduction of complexity standpoint.

The current version of MongoDB, imo, makes you super productive and scales without a ton of thinking. If you're working in Node.js, it's even more useful as the query language works just like a JS/JSON object so writing queries is super fast (compared to SQL where you have to spend a lot of mental cycles figuring out how to map object/array data).

I've found that denormalizing data (not even necessarily copying/duping data, but trying to centralize storage of it) when using MongoDB is the way to get the most value out of it. If you try to treat it like an RDB (which does work but can cause issues with complex queries), you'll run into headaches. If you just design stuff to be nested, though (and use the built-in APIs to query that nested data), it works incredibly well.


That is pretty funny, But that video is 11 years old. It can't still be like that? can it? Seems like people are down on Mongo in the last year, and I'm trying to catch up.


WiredTiger was kinda Mongo's InnoDB and has made "your data will actually still be there later" rather more true than it used to be.

I think the key thing is that people using MySQL were having trouble with deep data and found MongoDB's document oriented approach much easier, but these days people are tending to start with PostgreSQL, which can handle that nicely.

(MySQL/MariaDB are far better than they used to be as well, though I find most stuff I read online doesn't take advantage of that as much as it might)

There's also probably a factor of Mongo solving pain points people had when they switched to it, and there being lots of excitement around that, where today the same people have run into the pain points of Mongo often enough that it's no longer nearly so exciting a prospect.

I wouldn't honestly be surprised if we're now at a point where people are -more- negative about Mongo than it really deserves, and I say that as somebody who viscerally hated it on sight and would still rather avoid dealing with it myself it if at all possible.

(oh and MongoDB the -company- has always done their best to be a good corporate community citizen, sponsoring all sorts of cool things as a result, and while I think the license change was a shame I -still- think they're doing their best, just in an environment where they wouldn't have a best to try to do in the first place if they didn't avoid being killed by AWS)


> the license change was a shame ... avoid being killed by AWS

That sounds similar to Elastic's story. Did MongoDB go through that as well?


MongoDB were the first major player to do that (that I know of, at least) back in 2018 - see https://www.mongodb.com/legal/licensing/server-side-public-l... or hit google for a plethora of people being angry about it.


I agree that this is not a move I am happy to see. I hope I am proven wrong. I have been struggling with my love of Twilio. For years they have been one of my favorite tech companies, but I have been really struggling with them and their products lately. It feels like they have lost their core mission.


On many United flights you can connect to onboard wifi without buying the plan and have internet access on port 22 and apparently unrestricted UDP. This allows me to connect to an EC2 instance running mosh. Coding in vim is a great way to pass the time on a flight.


Can't you create an SSH tunnel to a machine and RDP with it? Then you'd have fully functioning internet.


That resume reinforces the argument that the GI Bill is the best legislation every passed in the US.


Shame it wasn't available to everyone who qualified:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/G.I._Bill#Racial_discriminatio...


True. Imagine where we would be if that hadn’t happen. The lost opportunity is immense.


If slavery is the original sin, this is the second sin.


abxytg made a list of their experiences at Apple, but that list is empty.


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