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Good for them. Good for "the planet" (and uh... Tesla I suppose). But... most of incentives for the transition has been substantially funded by the nation's massive oil and gas revenues.

I wonder what they will do next with that obscene amount of money.


One can argue that the tax revenue losses would be uncomfortably noticeable without the interests extracted from the investments of the oil and gas money. However I’d say it’s more about Norways position on new cars being a luxury good and taxed as so. Which meant that the Norwegian government could make buying electric cars cost half as much as the alternative over night, simply by dropping retail taxes on them to zero. Add another subsidy in the form of reduced annual ownership taxes, and buying unused (electric) cars suddenly became obtainable to a large group. Not to mention simply a stupidly good deal for those without special needs, like living/operating in the less dense areas to the north where the sun doesn’t shine half a year at a time (and the temperatures follow accordingly).

You should be able to reproduce it most places though. Just declare new non-electric vehicles a luxury only for the rich and set taxes on new cars to 100%+. (Be sure to define businesses as rich and have popular agreement that they’re unviable if not.) Sell it to current owners as a massive boost to the used price they can get. Then drop the taxes on electric vehicles. After the transition to all new sales being electric, reintroduce the luxury taxation on all vehicles like what Norways government is currently doing, and you’ll get a small boost to the nations finances if you didn’t originally have it.


> and uh... Tesla I suppose

Are Teslas popular in Norway?


Very.

> Tesla was Norway's top-selling car brand for a fifth consecutive year, with a 19.1% market share, followed by Volkswagen at 13.3% of registrations and Volvo Cars at 7.8%.

https://www.reuters.com/sustainability/climate-energy/norway...



Quite a bit less now than they used to be but there's still a lot of them.

Yes.

This smells like DRM and planned obsolescence to me.


In a side news, they announced the death of Fleet.

This is sad for me because I found it good enough to integrate it in my daily workflow.

I hope they at least consider to drop it on GitHub and allow people to give it a chance as community project.


This will be transient. Marketing and companies eventually will find a way to pollute LLMs to bend, comply to their strategies and fuck consumers.

SEO wasn't a thing before '97.


Probably a "scramble suit" [0] or just a tshirt or hoodie with patterns engineered to escape AI recognition [1]

[0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Scanner_Darkly [1] https://medium.com/data-science/avoiding-detection-with-adve...


Someone made a shirt called ChatGP-Tee, that had (IIRC) a picture of a generic office view, it confused the model completely and it didn't recognise the wearer as human :D


Reminds me of the "ugliest t shirt" from Zero History by Gibson



Families who choose Montessori school for their children usually avoid them have access smartphone, TV or internet in general.

Also, they are often in the wealthy, upper class so can enforce that kind on environment.


curious why wealth plays into enforcing smart phone usage.


Before having a kid I never realized how powerful of a tool a TV or an iPad was in terms of (essentially) free babysitting.

Families where grandparents can afford to retire and / or move closer to their grandchildren are operating on an entirely different level financially. As are families where the parent or parents can work from home. As are families that can afford childcare which can easily cost as much or more than a mortgage in California at least. Even after public Kindergarten or TK becomes available these are mostly only half day coverage (again in CA) and you are completely on your own to figure out how to cover (pay for) the rest of the time if both parents work and there aren't other family members in the picture.

So in summary, I never would have realized that regardless of how much screen time you want your kid having the reality has shown itself to be that there is a direct correlation between relying on screen time and the financial standing of you and your extended family, for better or worse.

I was very lucky to have remote work when I had a kid, but my parents couldn't / can't afford to retire and that has had a huge financial impact on us. If I had an in-person job we would have had to rely a lot more on screens to fill in the gaps.

In any case no complaints I absolutely love having a kid and am glad to pay for good quality school / childcare and I don't really believe there's anything wrong with screen time anyway.

Watching 3-6 hours of TV a day after school while my parents worked and did whatever adults did in the 90's didn't seem to do as much harm to me mentally as I would have thought. It seems insane in retrospect.


It's crazy to compare my household now vs my experience as a kid in the 90s. TV was always on in the background, whether it was the news, or documentaries, sports, or cartoons, always something. As a kid I knew at what time different soap operas or TV shows would be on the program. We also had schools in shifts, and some weeks I would go to school at 2pm, so I had the whole morning without parents to do homework and watch TV, there was nothing else to do. I do spend a lot of time online now, but the TV is almost always turned off in my house. Only occasionally will I turn on the TV and play a cartoon channel on cable (or disney) for my kid if I have something to do.


This whole post is spot on. Where I live the use of a screen as a baby sitter is a lot higher in the households where there is a single parent, or where both parents work jobs with very low flexibility, often in combination with no grandparents able to help out.


It's hard not to give a smartphone to a kid if you have to work or just can't spend a lot of time with the kid. Kids are demanding of time and attention. So either you have enough time or you pay someone to play with your kid or you have to endure a lot of chaos a kid without a smartphone and a lot of time without attention can do (from screaming and crying to wreaking havoc in your household). Or you give them smartphone and they keep quiet and still and you can do what you need to do.


imho we're completely missing the problem. It's not so much that kids need our attention, it's more that adults have 0 fucking free time, both parents have to work full time (or often even more) to afford what people could afford on a single salary not even 50 years ago.

Giving a phone to a 5 years old solves the symptom but it certainly doesn't fix the problem.


I don't think that's true, at least for Americans. Even in the sub-population of full time working parents, more time is spent on watching TV (1.45h mother, 1.98h father) than on child care (1.41h mother, 0.91h father, where units are hours per 24h on average): https://www.bls.gov/tus/tables/a7-1519.htm


Worth calling out that's for "children under 18". If you scroll down to specifically "children under 6", since people talking about "screen time" are usually more worried about 6 year olds than 16 year olds, those hours go to 2.42/1.54 childcare against 1.17/1.79 TV.

But I think I'd look at it the other way. The only category on here that's really "discretionary time" is "Leisure and sports". Across the board, parents are averaging about 12% there. The average across the population (including parents) is 22%.[0] This is also averaging everything across weekends as well. Expectedly, people have more free time on the weekends[1].

I'd also point out the footnote:

> NOTE: A primary activity refers to an individual's main activity. Other activities done simultaneously are not included.

There is nothing I do while my kid is (1) home and (2) awake that doesn't involve her taking up a large part of my time and attention.

When it's a dark evening in the middle of winter and I'm setting up a ladder in three feet of snow to climb up on the roof and run an auger down the sewer vent on the roof... I'm still spending probably a third to half of my time on her.

When I've got two pans on the fire, something in the toaster oven, and I'm trying to mind a pot I'm filling up with water to turn into supper... I guess, yeah, running back and forth to try and clean up some spilled juice and get her changed out of the wet clothes while I don't let anything burn or overflow is still technically mostly "food preparation and cleanup".

I don't even know where "planning child's birthday party" fits into this whole thing, but it's not something I'm doing _with_ my kid so it doesn't seem to be caring for household children by the general phrasing of these options. (And you might think "yeah but that only happens once a year" and you'd be right... but it's always something.)

And yeah, after she was asleep I did a bunch of "housework" and at some point I sat down for an hour and "watched TV" while I poked away at a bunch of other smaller things that needed doing. At some point I feel asleep in a chair so I'm not sure whether my primary activity was "sleep" or "watching television".

So that's a rundown of a recent evening of mine which had around 0 hours spent on childcare and an hour on TV.

Obviously "lived experience" is not "data", but that's at least _a_ perspective--yes, by the numbers I probably spend more time watching TV than caring for my kid but no, she's still the main time sink on my day outside of sleep and work (and sometimes not even sleep) and I certainly do not have a bunch of free time I could be allocating to childcare so she spent less time watching TV.

[0] https://www.bls.gov/tus/tables/a1-2023.pdf [1] https://www.bls.gov/tus/tables/a2-2023.pdf


I feel it's easier with with more kids since you can let them play together. It's hard with one kid or kids that are not of similar age, since they have nobody to play with them at home. Of course, there are some kids who can play alone with legos or dolls. I know when I was growing up me and my brother where a year apart and we could play for hours together with legos or toys, we did also watch a lot of TV, this was the early 90s.


I'll add another that my sibling posts haven't - wealthy parents are more likely to be aware of the dangers. Doubly so for those working in tech.


My sister is out of work 50% of the time, her husband is out of work 90% of the time. Their combined yearly earnings are well under the median wage here.

They have 5 kids + 1 foster.

All have iPads. The eldest kid does double duty as nursemaid and has done since she was 7 or so.

Poverty = Kids iPad for me too. I dunno why. Its cheaper than childcare I guess.


I think low income family parents have to work more, sometimes multiple jobs to pay the bills so the kids end up with more screen time because maybe they have someone else watching them or they're alone depending on the age. If someone else is watching them it's easy to just give the kid a screen and they're not as concerned as the parents about the long term effects.

Also if you're a kid in a low income area where maybe it's not safe to go play outside or you need constant supervision to be safe you don't go out much and therefore screens become the default indoor play. My kids have a big backyard they can go out and ride bikes around and swingset and spaces to dig and play and get dirty in the backyard because I make enough to buy a house like that.


Wealthier parents can pay to have more free time to spend on activities with their children to the exclusion of screens.


It plays into the whole package of keeping children occupied after the au pair has driven them to and from expensive montessori private schools


As far as I can tell, “Montessori” is just a mechanism for price discrimination, like “organic”.

We’ve gone out with multiple sets of parents who send their kids to Montessori labeled schools, and they whip out iPhones and iPads to placate at the first sign of trouble.

Not to mention that I can’t figure out what a Montessori school does differently anyway, other than charge a higher tuition, thereby selecting for a group of kids with higher socioeconomic status parents.


That’s because Montessori is something that any school or daycare can call themselves, regardless of whether they adhere to the teaching philosophy or not. You need to look at just the set of schools that are AMS or AMI accredited.


This needs to be higher in the thread. The AMS/AMI accreditation makes a big difference in the quality of teaching.

Prior Montessori HN thread: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33622295


Yep, exactly this. There's been a boom in Montessori-labeled schools, but there are comparatively few real ones. Partly, it's very hard to find real Montessori teachers, so the ones that aren't accredited don't have many, if any, real Montessori-trained teachers, and it's not something you can just wing.

I ran the hiring processes for a Montessori school my wife and I helped run, and the difference in even Montessori-trained and very experienced teachers was stunning. If you want the real experience, you really have to find one that lives and breathes the principles.


My kid goes to a public Montessori school, so the tuition isn't much. It's also pretty clear what they do differently if you tour the classrooms.


What about sharing GPU across multiple VMs? Isn't Nvidia walled this feature behind unreasonably high price features?


Keep them airgapped or use a smart HDMI stick, their support typically outperform anything from the TV vendor and you can install apps (e.g. Jellyfin) on them. If you dislike Google or Amazon there are some Linux based options.

There is also HDMI over-radio but I don't know its limits (range, bandwidth, latency).


Is this still true in 2024? AFIK, modern ( everything after 2010) ACs, pumps and refrigerator use ozone neutral gas like HFC.


It is still true, most common refrigerants still have quite high GWP [1]. Not as bad as in the 70's, but the transition to neutral gasses is not ready yet. And then there is also all the old installed systems still running.

1. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Refrigerant#Common_refrigerant...


It says right in the table that propane only has 3.3 times the potential of CO₂. That's in fact quite low for the use.


HFCs are amongst the most damaging climate gases.

It's a very unfortunate outcome of phasing out CFCs that they have in many instances been replaced by powerful greenhouse gases. HFCs are slowly phased out as well, but there are still a lot of harmful gases out there.


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