It’s really disheartening to hear so many objections to “race” or “class” stories on NPR as these are the pieces that speak of experiences like my own. I’m in my 40s today but I remember being one of barely a handful of Tejano game developers in Austin back in the 90s and no one called our inclusion DEI - they just called it hiring locally. It seems all these good things that were the norm have been hijacked and brought the worst of the objectivists. Maybe if listening to understand (vs listening to react) a lot of these comments here wouldn’t look fence walking outbursts.
I still have hope for the future. Not much to be found in these comments tho.
>It’s really disheartening to hear so many objections to “race” or “class” stories on NPR as these are the pieces that speak of experiences like my own
They could reasonably apply to me, too (I'm Jewish, raised in a Christian town, was wildly bullied through middle school for being Jewish). Yet somehow I've always felt that aspect of my identity was the least interesting about me. I don't care about Judaism, or Jewishness. After the Nth Holocaust movie it was like "Enough already, I get it." I wanted to talk about science fiction and physics and music and girls and sailing and yoga and computers and all kinds of other things. It's a strange impulse to want to "center" aspects of yourself that other people feel are important but you don't. (Of course, Jewishness is odd, because later in life people wanted to talk about it because of their positive prejudices - this was, if anything, even more annoying, because it was something I didn't care about and it was uncomfortable flattery and it was well-meaning so it was hard to put the kabosh on it.)
It's funny but I notice how many of the liberals pushing against left-wing extremism are Jewish. Jonathan Haidt comes to mind, but there are many others (who currently escape me). My hypothesis is that we are, as a group, relatively recently assimilated, and we know how much worse it could be, and how damn good Enlightenment Culture is compared to all the rest, and how far America has come with Jewish acceptance. Assimilation is great because it works both ways - I can't tell you how much it warms my heart to see people use words like "schmuck" or "kosher"! I don't think it would have helped me then, or helped now, to have "race" stories about Jews in American Christian suburban middle schools. If anything, I can imagine making it much worse, giving me a victim complex and a habit of blaming the system, instead of taking my social L's, and out-performing the shit out of my dumb-ass classmates, and laughing all the way along the rosy path of nerd-dom. Maybe one thing Jews really do have is a sense of humor about racism and bigotry, since we've dealt with so much of it over time. But I recall no stories of Jewish minorities guilting the majority into "centering" their experience and hating themselves and their own culture. And if I did I don't think I'd see this as a win, but as a dastardly act of passive-aggression and dominance that is unhealthy for both groups. Oppression is not the way, of either the minority OR the majority. We grow and merge and love each other and take on the best qualities of each and that's awesome.
Sorry to hear that, but can you quantify it? Like, do you get verbal abuse at work 5x a day, sneers at the grocery store every time you go, or what? Or are you talking about online talk about your identity? (I hate to break it to you, but with that last one literally every human being on Earth can find a metric ton of online abuse directed at them if they look for it.)
What people say about you (or your ethnicity) is orthogonal to the reality. Its hurtful only insofar as you attach yourself to their perceptions, and people are fundamentally ignorant. One of the things people seem to forget is that humans are by default deeply bigoted (and authoritarian). It's a miracle that there exist any places on Earth that have managed to curtail those instincts. If you live in such a place (and I'd count America, even Texas, as one of them) count yourself lucky. Let ignorant people flap their gums; it's hot air, signifying nothing.
>It's funny but I notice how many of the liberals pushing against left-wing extremism are Jewish. Jonathan Haidt comes to mind, but there are many others (who currently escape me).
Scott Aaronson and Scott Alexander come to mind. Also Edward Blum, though he's more of a "classical liberal" than a liberal in the modern sense.
There is a cancer of cynicism and hate in these parts. Always has been but now it feels that it's the victim and now it has the tools to grow. This was a failed attempt at growth. It will try again until it is eradicated.
Depends. Some combine the fence posts with concrete (adding weight), some add reinforcing metal posts, some do nothing. Watching fences collapse after a strong wind storm is a common sight.
Its worth noting you can generally still drill a hole into caliche.
Grew up in a colonia and I constantly fear with my six figure salary, existing in this ridiculous world of opulence and technology that I will lose those lessons. I am more than how I grew up or where I am from. Feels good to know I do not walk alone in that journey...
As someone who grew up on both sides of the border it's created a new weight in my gut and every situation is always awkward now. But I am lucky, I am a citizen. I can't even begin to try and understand the trauma these families go through...
I am downvoting this because of the descendants of the illegal ANGLO immigrants who came to Texas in the early 19th century profit and cheer the criminalization of those doing the same thing.
No it’s not. America was not at war with Mexico during 1812-1836. Tens of thousands of gringos came and illegally squatted on land as well as raped and killed numerous Tejano families for their land. You should brush up on your history.
I typically refrain from discussing this on HN, I am already a unicorn in a sea of anglos (ethnic Tejano - mix of marrano and native peoples) but you need to understand at a minimum that these people are not crossing a border - the border crossed them. The Treaty of Guadalupe only allowed a pathway to citizenship on paper; in practice the complete erradication of the Hispanics/Tejanos/Natives from north of the border. Things like the bracero program in the early 20th century created this migrant cycle. This isn't about defending illegal immigration - it's about the villains pretending to be the victims. I am all for "protecting" the border - you don't do that making everyone from the border, and those that cross it for work/family/quality of life, a criminal.
Don't be a vendido, don't forget about the struggles previous generations went through just for you to be able here to comment on the internet.
> you need to understand at a minimum that these people are not crossing a border - the border crossed them.
What percentage of illegal border crossers do you think are native peoples who lived in that region historically and 'had the border cross them', versus people from southern Mexico, Guatemala, Nicaragua, etc who are using it merely as a migration route and have no connection to the land?
I still have hope for the future. Not much to be found in these comments tho.