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Where are the stories about all the other mail providers who routinely cough up everything about your email account, including full content, metadata, and full payment details, on a daily basis?

Proton is one of the few services who accepts anonymous payment, and cannot themselves provide encrypted content in cleartext. They cannot save you from yourself, though.


i can’t speak for the journalists who wrote the story, but i assume it’s due to how prominently proton markets their email as safe/private/encrypted and then it turns out they may be sharing data with the swiss government who then gives it to the us government.

it absolutely should be news when the company who heavily promoted themselves to normies as safe, encrypted, and private is sharing customers data which is ending up in the hands of authoritarian foreign governments who are hunting for protesters.


> Proton Mail Helped FBI Unmask Anonymous 'Stop Cop City' Protester

This is a highly deceptive title. As if Proton proactively helped FBI, which is not even close to truth. Proton is not even in direct contact with FBI. It's Swiss government that forwarded the info to FBI.

A much better title would be:

Proton Mail Payment Info Helped FBI Unmask Anonymous 'Stop Cop City' Protester

Or

FBI Unmasked Anonymous 'Stop Cop City' Protester via Proton Mail Payment Info

The point is informing the normies that your payment info is linked to your identity and a potential risk to your anonymity.

That clickbaity title makes me want to unsubscribe from their RSS feed.

> then it turns out they may be sharing data with the swiss government who then gives it to the us government.

Literally every legal business complies to law enforcement. They have to.


They accept anonymous payment? I could've sworn they require an account...


You can literally mail an envelope of cash to them and they'll credit your account. Probably the best way to remain anonymous. At worst, they'll have the zip code from where it was mailed from and potential fingerprints. But since an envelope isn't really a financial record, I doubt they would hold onto it.


Okay I think I just misunderstood. I guess I was assuming "paying for the service anonymously" meant "paying such that the person using the service is anonymous", not "anonymously paying for the service". Haha. Syntax is fun!


Hi Cape team,

I'd like a service like yours that allows private signups and that works continuously to prove ongoing private operations. I don't need huge data plans, I'm fine with WiFi mostly. It needs to cost way less per month than your current pricing. It would be cool if you could find a way to serve people like me.


Appreciate the feedback, we’ll likely experiment with different plans down the road, but for now we’re focused on rolling out as much additional privacy/security value as we can to justify the premium price point.


I on the other hand am fine with the premium price... but it looks like I'd need to install a proprietary app to use the service. That's a 'hell naw' from me.


Can you please respond with a full throated opinion of what Palantir is today? This seems to be what everyone is thirsting for and what you are perhaps inadvertently dancing around.


I'm 4 years removed from the company at this point, so any opinion I could offer would not be much more than any rando on the internet reacting to news stories.


Thank you for being honest and up front about your background. It is very meaningful that you do not try to hide it, and I feel it increases trust.


Nobody who would be any good at the job wants to waste their life campaigning for it.


What city is this?


i live in oregon and a bunch of the flock cameras have been vandalized.

a lot of the oregon towns/cities decided to cancel or not renew their contracts though, so I think they just let em get broken and then didnt pay to repair them.


HN's hidden Active section surfaces stories that are getting a lot of comments, which on its own is helpful. The most helpful part of Active is that it doesn't hide Flagged submissions. You may want to be especially aware of a submission that is getting a lot of comments but is flagged.

I'm grateful for HN Active.


I appreciate this comment creating somewhere for people to discuss flagging. In my ideal HN you wouldn't be down voted but there would be a rigorous comment thread underneath it.


From OP:

Given that Salesforce support case data contains the contents of support tickets with Cloudflare, any information that a customer may have shared with Cloudflare in our support system—including logs, tokens or passwords—should be considered compromised, and we strongly urge you to rotate any credentials that you may have shared with us through this channel.


Any discussion of Salt Typhoon should start with the unusual fact that it is still an active and uncontained incident, despite having been widely revealed in 2024. Typically we are accustomed to discussing lessons learned during a post mortem. This particular mortem has not yet posted. We are still owned and data continues to be compromised.

https://www.theregister.com/2025/08/28/china_salt_typhoon_al...


This commentary attempts to reassure people about staying with 23 and me, but ultimately ends up concluding that there's virtually nothing useful to be gleaned from the data created from the 23 and me process.

Author dismissed privacy concerns in the same way we see others downplay it: you already are giving up your privacy in other parts of your life, why not give it up here, too? Total nonsense, IMO.

The conclusion I came to from this, that I don't believe the author intended, is that you should delete your data from this company because it is pointless.


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