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And they came to this conclusion after how many years of exploitative behaviour?

Thank google and their ad ecosystem.

Google must be crucified. Bring back public executions :DDD. Btw nothing of value lost.

Strange, when I was in Iceland it was interesting to see that there were literally zero flying/ground insects around.

Oh, the free internet.

The Internet is still free. Access just got regulated for a region :D

I'm appalled that HN seemingly do not care about the human suffering that is going on in these medieval human slavery camps and instead focus on seemingly to regurgitate whatever talking points from their political leanings that were taught.

These "scam" centers kidnap, torture, even harvest organs from victims and have caused extreme violation of human rights but many of you seem more concerned with focusing your hatred towards Elon Musk or how your internet is being censored by this act.

Almost no modern telecom business will allow its customers to engage in terrorism and heinous criminal acts such as this.

This thread is the first time I am disgusted by HN users which in the recent years becomes indistinguishable from Reddit.


Still, on what basis do you, as a company, decide whether you restrict your services or not? Internet is like drinkable water. Imagine someone shutting off water to your area, because the little green elfs said so. There are myriad ways to kneecap these bastards, no, they decided to shut off the internet.

Oh watch as the new phones get satellite access for cents......

"Dwarkesh: Deeply researched interviews"

pfuh


Please don't post unsubstantive comments to HN. Thoughtful criticism is welcome.

You are missing the point. US has a lot of harmful cultural exports and one of them is streaming, where people degrade and humiliate themselves for money and the like. Then there is yt shorts, then 4chan, then social media.

These slowly degrade societies, like it or not. At least someone tries to do something to weed out the utter, batshit crazy adults, actually childminded idiots, who think the world is their playground.

Any way I see it this is a slow virus, a weapon of sorts. Just politicians usually have their heads lodged in their own back orifice, hence slow reacting.


> These slowly degrade societies, like it or not.

So, thought crimes?


This is not reddit. I do not understand how such low hanging opinions are on this. There have been publications and tons of enactments from both govs, research labs, companies just sucking out every social media.

It's not like we are not warning you, you have netflix, amazon, google, whatever you want - somehow pirating an American movie is an offense in Europe - but abiding by the same logic is not acceptable - same goes for Assange and Snowden - why the did we abide with American shenanigans if that's just one sided ?

And are you getting ready for the turn-over ? Because all it takes is some mad politicians - alternatives - and I'm not sure the status quo is going to last while AI is booming - more than that - people are increasingly hostile to US and it seems it's going to continue this way if the toddler attitude is kept over.


People can be as hostile to the US as they want, it's all noise until they develop comparable capabilities.

Why do u put a space before a question mark? thats super weird bro u should try to learn anglais better

Setting aside whether it’s true, that’s not a thought crime by any definition.

The argument as I understood it was 4chan's existence, degrades society.

4chan's whole gimmick is that you can say whatever you want, because you don't have to identify yourself when you say it. It's a way for Internet denizens scream their intrusive thoughts into the pseudovoid.

If expressing intrusive thoughts makes society worse, and should be controlled. That, arguably makes expressing thoughts a crime. You shouldn't be allowed to think or say thing.

I guess you could insist that thinking is different from expressing, and that thinking is fine as long as you repress the inate human trait and desire of expression... But I feel that's a stupid line in the sand to draw given my intent was to point out 4chan doesn't make society worse, tolerating ideas you don't like generally improves society. It's how you behave that matters.

In other words, If 4chan didn't exist, people would behave better.

If you weren't exposed to those thoughts and ideas, you would behave better.

If you didn't have a thought....


Your reasoning is way off. You’re a human being, not some creature running on autopilot. And you’re fully capable of thinking and acting with some intelligence.

What’s happening online just drags things down. People chasing clicks, money, and attention by any means. When platforms like 4chan or influencers resort to gimmicks or self objectification to get views, it encourages people to act less like thoughtful humans and more like they’re reverting to base instincts - like animals. It normalizes shallow, attention-hungry behaviour and chips away at basic self-respect and awareness. One idiot can lead a hundred astray.

Why is it ok for a young woman to put a paper bag on her head in a live chat session, in order to gain more subscribers? Or swallow insults after insults? Is this ok? I don't think so.

You want to tolerate ideas like GGG movies and Dick Wadd gay videos where black guys sodomize whitebois acting as nazis and then piss in steel bowls and force them to drink it from said bowl? How do these "ideas" improve society hm? You need these things to be tolerated?

This whole idea that anyone can do anything and people will decide what's best for them is absolute hogwash.


I agree and other countries (as well as the US) should educate their children so they are prepared and don't fall into that trap of brainrot consumption.

Nice writing.

Pay for the book, then pirate it. Problem solved. Same with series and movies.


It should if you try to fly off the radar. Not that Tor browser isn't a fucken emmentaler.

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