"Now the only reason why I won't post this as an arxiv note, is that the humans actually beat gpt-5 to the punch :-). Namely the arxiv paper has a v2 arxiv.org/pdf/2503.10138v2 with an additional author and they closed the gap completely, showing that 1.75/L is the tight bound."
I really don't know what to make of this. The conclusion is that a model could still do this without the paper containing the exact info on how to do this ?
But I can complain about what happens to said something. If my blog photo becomes deep fake porn am I allowed to complain or not ? What we have is an entirely novel situation (with ai) worth at least a serious discussion.
FWIW...I really don't think so. If you say, posted your photo on a bulletin board in your local City Hall, can you prevent it from being defaced? Can you choose who gets to look at it? Maybe they take a picture of it and trace it...do you have any legal ground there? (Genuine Question). And even if so...It's illegal to draw angry eyebrows on every face on a billboard but people still do it...
IMO, it being posted online to a publicly accessible site is the same. Don't post anything you don't want right-click-saved.
That's helpful if they live in the same country, can figure out who the 4chan poster was, the police are interested (or you want to risk paying a lawyer), you're willing to sink the time pursuing such action (and if criminal, risk adversarial LEO interaction), and are satisfied knowing hundreds of others may be doing the same and won't be deterred. Of course, friends and co-workers are too close to you to post publicly when they generate it. Thankfully, the Taylor Swift laws in the US have stopped generation of nonconsensual imagery and video of its namesake (it hasn't).
Daughter's school posted pictures of her online without an opt-out, but she's also on Facebook from family members and it's just kind of... well beyond the point of trying to suppress. Probably just best to accept people can imagine you naked, at any age, doing any thing. What's your neighbor doing with the images saved from his Ring camera pointed at the sidewalk? :shrug:
Yeah, with this mentality, we wouldn't have electricity today. You will never make transition to new technology painless, no matter what you do. (See: https://pessimistsarchive.org)
What you are likely doing, though, is making many more future humans pay a cost in suffering. Every day we delay longevity escape velocity is another 150k people dead.
There was a time when in the name of progress people were killed for whatever resources they possessed, others were enslaved etc. and I was under the impression that the measure of our civilization is that we actually DID care and just how much. It seems to me that you are very eager to put up altars of sacrifice without even thinking that the problems you probably have in mind are perfectly solvable without them.
Nah, it's death. People objectively are doing better than ever despite wealth inequality. By all metrics - poverty, quality of life, homelessness, wealth, purchasing power.
I'd rather just... not die. Not unless I want to. Same for my loved ones. That's far more important than "wealth inequality."
You don't mind living in a country with a population of billions [sic], piled on top of one another? You don't mind living a country ruled by gerontocracy and probably autocracy, because that's what you'll eventually get without death to flush them out.
"You/your loved ones should die because Elon would die too" is a terrible argument. It's not great, but it's not worth dying over. New rich bad people would take his place anyways.
"You should die because cities will get crowded" is a less terrible argument but still a bad one. We have room for at least double our population on this planet, couples choosing longevity can be required to have <=1 children until there is room for more, we will eventually colonize other planets, etc.
All this is implying that consciousness will continue to take up a meaningful amount of physical space. Not dying in the long term implies gradual replacement and transfer to a virtual medium at some point.
> People objectively are doing better than ever despite wealth inequality. By all metrics - poverty, quality of life, homelessness, wealth, purchasing power.
If you take this as an axiom, it will always be true ;).
One of the biggest factors in risk of death right now is poverty. Also what is being chased right now is "human level on most economically viable tasks" because the automated research for solving physics etc. even now seems far-fetched.
So it's bs but for money and therefore totally fine ? I think it's not ok if only a fraction comes true because some people believe in those things and act on those beliefs right now.
I didn't say it was bs. I was alluding to the timing of this essay being published but, clearly, I didn't articulate it in my message well. I also don't think everything he says is bs. Some of it I find a bit naive -- but maybe that's ok -- some other things seem a bit like sci-fi, but who are we to say this is impossible? I'm optimistic but also learnt in life that things improve, sometimes drastically given the right ingredients.
“We found that even state-of-the-art models which are optimally performant in data similar to their training sets are not optimal — that is, they do not make the best trade-off between overall and subgroup performance — in novel settings,” Ghassemi says. “Unfortunately, this is actually how a model is likely to be deployed. Most models are trained and validated with data from one hospital, or one source, and then deployed widely.”
I really don't know what to make of this. The conclusion is that a model could still do this without the paper containing the exact info on how to do this ?
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