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Rule of thumb is to not bother family or friends. Not worth it for a lot of reasons. Also because you will most likely fail.


Life on earth has around 1 billion years left(Sun will be too hot). Without intelligent life all will surely go extinct. We may be its ultimate saviors when/if we conquer the stars.


Seems like more than enough time considering how far we've come in the past 6000 years, and technologically, that graph looks something like this:

http://cl.ly/image/3H1A3S341k1t

Of course, we might muck it up good in a few short years here.

Edit: who on Earth decided this was a good comment to downvote? We are doomed.


One perspective is that human population and various other characteristics of the economy & environment roughly agree with the "Limits to Growth" standard run modelling that was done 40 years ago:

http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/sep/02/limits-...

I am not sure if "doomed" is the right word. It seems pretty plausible that existing civilisation will collapse, as many human civilisations have done in the past, and there will be additional human suffering (more than the considerable amount there is now), but I doubt we as a species will become extinct within the next few hundred years.


Me neither, but I do wonder what life will be like for my kid after I'm dead.


The trend is your friend until the bend in the end.


Oh, I like this. May I have another?


Comparing the odds that we will destroy it with global warming or nukes is tough though. Seems like we may well be the arbiter of it's doom.

Plus, what if we do leave? Do you think our governments are really progressing towards that Star Trek enlightened super government, or are we progressing toward some sort of Orwellian nightmare? What would humanity look like when it colonizes more planets and leaves? Would we be the good aliens or bad aliens you see in sci-fi movies?

Right now we still seem like a species dominated by self interest, and it doesn't look like we're changing any time soon...


Meh, climate change might make it more or less comfortable for us and other creatures, but it won't "destroy" anything, and I seriously question whether human beings, marshaling every last bit of technology we have at our disposal right now, even have the power to "destroy" the earth. I'm almost certain we do not.

One thing we do have, though, is the power to amplify our own significance. We've only been writing about what happens to us for 5000 years or so. There are Bristlecone pine trees nearly that old, and even that is just the tiniest little flash, so brief it is undetectable, in the time that the planet has been here.


There's a shit ton of matters we can convert into living space before we can even think of colonizing life sustaining planets.


We'll only seriously start responding to global warming when a significant part of Manhattan is underwater.


Eh, they'll just move everything to Denver and keep right on going. Cities have been covered with water many times before.


Some estimates put this at 600 million years, assuming Earth is not gradually moved to a trans-Neptunian orbit.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Future_of_the_Earth#Solar_evolu...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_of_the_far_future


Bingo. We need to keep the biosphere stable/habitable and preserve a good amount of biodiversity, but ultimately all species and all of their decendant species will go extinct in a short period of time (on a universal scale).

We have the duty to prevent that if possible. Using near future technology we should be able to at least ensure some life survives the death of our star. Easily imagined technology would let us spread life far enough to survive almost any catastrophe. It will be up to some future life forms to figure out how to escape the heat death of the universe... We can only do so much after all.


Hah, that sure is an interesting way of looking at it! Just as aerobic organisms saved life on Earth from the Great Oxygenation Event, and fungus & bacteria saved life on Earth by recycling, humans could save life on Earth from the Sun by developing space travel.

We are, you could say, one of Nature's many apparatus to long term success. Any biosphere that does not develop space travel is doomed to eventual extinction.


I have believed for a long time that the moral imperative of humanity as a species is to propagate the Earth ecosystem to other planets and in artificial space habitats.

Except for the dolphins. We don't need to encourage other species to just dick around all day. That's our niche.


>>Reads like a Scientology ad

After just reading the first few lines I started thinking what a bunch of bull. Then I read your message and I laughed because it's so true...:)

What worries me is that it is so easy to be taken in by this stuff. Specially if you are in a vulnerable state.


It is what you make of it; that's also the whole point, so it's funny because it's meta. That's also why I find people who are super-invested in that type of thing and super serious about it hilarious; it's as if they don't get it because they think they get it so hard.


Funny, I was just looking at this yesterday night to get some ideas on building design.


Thankfully you are being downvoted. Reading between the lines you are arguing that poor people are simply genetically stupid.

I counter that by saying that even though only a few can win a marathon most people with some training can finish it within a reasonable time.

Getting a doctor degree is the exact same thing. Sure, there are a few geniuses but you need not be one to become a medical doctor.

My point is that most people are intelligent enough. Hence most poverty is no because of the lack of it. Other issues are at play. Birth lottery is a strong one.


Unfortunately, you are not.

It is evident that /some/ of the poverty is due to genetically caused low IQ. That is a completely factual and unideological statement.

It is probably not the sole cause of poverty.

Wouldn't it be nice to figure out what the actual causes are and how much they each contribute?

Otherwise, the treatment would be more like blodletting and using perfume against miasmas than anything actually helpful.


IQ is heritable, to the extent intelligence increases one's human capital ( quite a bit) intelligent people will on average be richer than less intelligent people. This explains much of the differences in educational outcomes. I'm all for improving outcomes for poor children, but the solutions will need to be technological not environmental. I don't expect people to be able to separate the normative from the descriptive when it comes to their sacred issues, but the whole "education and nutrition is all that matters" approach is basically Lysenkoism.

We are in this strange dynamic where our inability to perceive ugly truths cause us to perpetuate the outcomes we so bemoan, leading to an arms race of ineffective interventions and reflexive shunning of people who actually care about the real cause of the problem. It might be nice if everyone were equally intelligent, but that's an engineering goal not the state of things now.


The United States supreme court is the closest thing we have.


And in Spanish it is "pio" for tweet. Very close to the portuguese one.


Interesting. I think "pio" is the onomatopoeia for tweet in Japanese too. It's the noise cash registers at Tokyo's Inageya supermarkets make when you use their points card.


And in French "piou piou" can be used colloquially to mean "bird"... Many languages seem to agree on this.


In Hungarian, "pee-pee-pee-pee" is used to at farms to call chicken. :) And sometimes, young woman are called "pee-pee"-s, in a playful way.


The cynic in me tells me that instead people will be calling for his head.


Most idiots do what they're told, and with IQ rates proportional to population, the USA has the 3rd most idiots of any country in the world.


Airing things out is quite healthy.


If at all possible I'll wait version 2


Theres already 7 new frameworks to learn by the time 1.0 is released.


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