When these vibe coded projects realise that maintenance, security updates, API changes are still needed. Get ready for a massive swing back to senior software developers being in demand.

Playing software maintainer while many vibe coded web apps aren't built with proper software architecture or practices only makes the swing back to senior engineers being in demand a possibility.

Good luck to those who are building 600K-LOC vibe coded web apps with 40+ APIs stitched together.

Honestly, "vibe-code-cleaners" are already out there and in demand!

I even expect "vibe-code-scalers" will come soon, to be able to fix and scale up the spaghetti AI agents plopped in the first place.

The author seems to be an Amazonian, it also seems that they are good at "Invent", but not at "Simplify" bit.

Big-Tech has invented LLMs, that is great. Big-Tech hasn't been great when it comes to "Simplify"-ing things. Actually, notoriously bad at it.

That is the opportunity here; "Simplifying" these workflows, making AaaS (Agent as a Service or AI as a Service)

> I stood on the street after my haircut and let sink in how big this was, how this technology has become an essential aide for so many, how I could lead performance efforts and help save the planet.

Brendan.

First of all congratulations on your new job. However,

It is easier to just say to everyone it is about the money, compensation and the stock options.

You're not joining a charity, or to save the planet, this company is about to unload on the public markets at an unfathomable $1TN valuation.

Don't insult your readers.

Try lobsters and probably Reddit which have a hard stance against AI.

You're right in HN heading down the path in favouring slop, constant posts and startups about AI with now 'influencers' (simonw in particular) aggressively posting and shilling AI.

With the moderators knowing that these 'influencers' and their kind violate the HN guidelines every day by purposefully linking back to their site for farming backlinks.

It might as well be called AI news.

For most reddit posts you can generate some rage bait against an llm using an llm, this way you cut the middle man out. Most subreddits eat that up without a second thought.

Lobsters stance is anti-AI and cautious at best. But plenty of AI-related articles there.

I like that for all the LLM/agentic news spam they apply the tag "vibecoding" (derogatory)

And more importantly users can hide articles by tag.

Lobste.rs has a hard stance against AI? This can't be true. I browse the front page every so often & there seems to be a fair amount of overlap between it and HN. At least for the upvoted articles.

There isn't a hard stance against it but it's generally not well received IMO and importantly, lobsters is written by people who understand other people have different needs and they provide the option to filter out articles by tags, rather than relying on a concept of "you will see everything or you will see what the crowd deems worthy".

> I find it sad that a lot of foundational open-source software is created/maintained by trading/crypto/money laundering companies. But OTOH it's great that they at least contribute _something_ to the society!

React is unfortunately becoming more foundational than this project, and with it maintained by a company that was involved in the Rohingya genocide in Myanmar, the Cambridge Analytica scandal and so on.

This makes crypto / trading companies look like angels compared to what Facebook has done even though they made and open sourced React.

To that end, I don't see anything morally wrong with the former camp of companies supporting open source, (trading/crypto) since they didn't participate and amplify an actual genocide.

So this is what the best engineers in the world are working on then.

Great.

What makes you say this person is a best engineer?

AI generated slop is the future :(

Sad.

So much for an alternative to Google, everything has to converge to ads.

Creativity has always been accessible to everyone. Creativity is a concept which only requires imagination. Those ideas can take many forms, including writing, cooking, sewing, doing skateboard tricks… It doesn’t mean rearranging pixels on screen by vaguely describing something.

But now we get artists skills for free, so anyone can become an artists with AI.

This is a net positive for the world.

In the start of your career if you're young, most would lowball as a last resort, if you have a medium to large body of work in your portfolio, probably be honest.

Make sure to account / factor in for equipment, taxes, family, rent, etc in your cost estimates, as they say estimation in software is hard.

If you lowball, IMHO you're not being honest with yourself and you may not be motivated to do the job. It is also hard to negotiate higher if you keep lowballing estimates with your clients in the long run.

How do you factor in family, rent, etc.? Do you multiply everything by say 1.25? Or do you actually put these line items in your proposal?

The future of SaaS is free and open source.

With this the cost of software (excluding maintenance) converges to zero.

Maintenance is often the reason why people decide not to self-host. So maybe the future of SaaS is a hybrid one.

Agree! While cost is one aspect, the quality of some open-source alternatives is incredibly high.

Yeah, by looking at the tags it seems that these are desktop terminals assuming most programmers use the desktop to use them.

A great list nonetheless.