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The cameras are doing the capturing, I can confirm (IPVM employee).


This can get even worse, e.g. Verkada, Meraki, what we named "Hostage as a Service" https://youtu.be/_vhIdsHeI0M


This is a brilliant term that perfectly summarizes the status quo of most IoT vendors and products. I will be using it henceforth and forever more.


We have seen no indications Wyze does any work with Hikvision.

Per import records, Wyze's shipper/producer for cameras is Tianjin Hualai https://www.hualaikeji.com/en/about


One major distinction between cards and other physical collectibles is that they come bundled with the implicit protection of the legal system on others making more physical copies (i.e., counterfeiting). So if one owns a rare card, others can see pictures of it, but they cannot make their own physical copy (backed by the legal system and threat of being arrested). This is unlike the NRT / digital side where making identical copies (sans blockchain) is perfectly legal.


Thanks for submitting that. I authored that report.

To give some color, a number of those companies have angrily emailed us so evidently, it has been circulating around.

Happy to answer any questions.


IPVM Analysis on the deal https://ipvm.com/reports/amazon-blink based on our testing of multiple Blink and Amazon camera models


"The cameras retailers use with their surveillance systems are coming with facial recognition built in now. [1]"

Your source in the marketing material of an IP camera manufacturer.

We research that space and I can guarantee that less than 0.1% of IP cameras have facial recognition built-in or running. These manufacturers, like Axis, whom you cite, would love for such capabilities but they are still very uncommon.


Can't they still use the feed from regular camera and have another system to facial recognition from that feed?


>We research that space and I can guarantee that less than 0.1% of IP cameras have facial recognition built-in or running.

While I'm sure this is true (since the majority of IP cameras in the world are cheap things little more than webcams), do you have a number for retail stores specifically? I know many of the larger chains spend a lot of money on their cameras and movement detection and other intelligence has been onboard those for at least 15 years.


Hawaii has defeated many powerful forces. Recall the Superferry disaster / ouster.

Whether or not Zuckerburg is right or wrong, locals have significant power to disrupt the actions of rich and powerful outsiders.

Too much of the comments here are analyzing the legal issues and the not the political / social forces involved in a haole vs local conflict.


"The eye is not a camera" Yes, that is obviously true.

The point is that the eye has the effective resolution, in terms of reading an eye chart, of a 10MP camera.


No, it doesn't.

If you zoom in on those photos, you can see that the camera images entire lines of text at the same resolution. A camera can 'read' the entire chart in one snapshot.

The eye doesn't work that way. For example, it is anisotropic in resolution; at the fovea, it has more 'pixels', but away from it, it has way fewer. Effect? You cannot read a line from a Snellen chart without moving your eyes. The eye doesn't take snapshots.


I am the author, let me know if you have any questions. Hikvision's controlling shareholder is the China PRC government. This move comes in light of increasing cybersecurity concerns with China.


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