Really nice! Since Unsplash is mentioned in the About page, I hope it doesn’t go the same way with a strange non-CC license at some point. (Also ideally sticking to just Attribution and Share-Alike as now. :)

I tried out the feed at /feed but it seems to be empty – is there a way to get updates of new additions?

While I too think everything would be easier if everything was CC-something licensed, I actually think the Unsplash license is extremely fair.

The license is basically: use pictures for anything you want except for a competing service. You decide if you want to attribute source.

For stock photos on websites and in PPP and reports, I can hardly imagine anything better than Unsplash.

I missed that, what did they go from the do whatever the f*ck you want license?

But, no. The licensing will be up to the artist, always.

What would be the preferred way? Twitter? RSS?

It used to be CC0 on Unsplash but some time ago they moved from that to a custom license with some special restrictons, which makes it impossible to use in other Creative Commons work: https://unsplash.com/license This also happened to a lot of other similar photo sites unfortunately.

Preferred for the feed would be RSS I’d say, but maybe Twitter is good on top for promo.

Thank you!

The WTF license is an antipattern really. All it does is push away anyone who has serious use cases for your work, because of the risk that nothing in that license will (likely) hold up in court. MIT carries basically the exact same provisions as WTF, so just use that.

> At this point, my only criticisms are that I think the installation should be more idiot-friendly, and the UI smells of 2012.

One of the Nextcloud designers here – thank you for the honest feedback! :)

Could you share some more details on these two things specifically? - Where did you have issues with the installation? On the website, download, permissions, install page, etc.? - Which parts of the UI you see as outdated? Is it the web interface, specific apps, the desktop client, the mobile apps, all of it? Any specific things which seem off to you and we should focus on?

We continuously work on improving the design of course. As it is we are not so many designers, as unfortunately the problem is in open source. Also we’ve been working on many things in parallel like accessibility, standardization, the new Vue components, and of course our breadth of apps, etc.

So thanks for bringing this up! We’ll do better.

For small apps like these, sign up is really a pain. That is why a friend and I have been working on a simplified version, which is mostly based on links so you can also easy share a tab: https://grouptabs.net

We also try to keep the interface very simple, and it works offline.

Wow, this looks great. Self-hostable but with an easy to use public instance, no app and a decent UI.

A few things I would really like to see added seem to already be in discussion, such as an "add to homescreen" option (https://github.com/xMartin/grouptabs/issues/146, https://github.com/xMartin/grouptabs/pull/143) and a delete option (https://github.com/xMartin/grouptabs/issues/152).

I look forward to playing with!

Very cool! Without sign up, how do you deal with spam?

I think if signup is a pain, use OAuth.

Nextcloud designer here, thanks for the kind words! What’s something UX-wise that you’d like to see us focus on, or where you have suggestions?

If you’re a designer, we’re also always looking for contributors :) https://nextcloud.com/design/

Nextcloud designer here, also working on Nextcloud Text. :)

Big thanks to ProseMirror https://prosemirror.net and tiptap https://tiptap.scrumpy.io which we use as a base for the app!

And of course as always with Nextcloud, the Text app is open source and everyone is welcome to give feedback and contribute: https://github.com/nextcloud/text

Disclaimer: I’m part of the Nextcloud team (and formerly ownCloud before we forked).

With Nextcloud we don’t offer hosting for a reason – we would compete with Google, Dropbox, Amazon etc. in a race to the bottom, and it wouldn’t be private either. nathan-io said it very well already in their reply.

Another thing which then makes it super simple for people to self-host is a) PHP (yes, we got ridiculed soo much for that through the years …) and b) a dead-simple installation which in the simplest case (with SQLite) only asks for username and password you want for the admin. Most importantly, we use open standards and formats like WebDAV, CalDAV, CardDAV, IMAP, gpx, ActivityPub, etc. which makes Nextcloud universally compatible.

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However, for people who do want to simply sign up we do have an easy way: https://nextcloud.com/signup/ – this is also very presently available as "Sign up with a provider" in the mobile and desktop apps.

How it works:

- We have a list of participating providers (of which there are many more at https://nextcloud.com/providers/ ) with some strict guidelines like minimum storage space, minimum set of specific apps, uptime, reliability, etc.

- On the signup site or step we show exactly 1 provider (instead of a list like Mastodon etc.) to not overwhelm people with choice. This is based on your location and it just shows the nearest one, assuming it’s probably best regarding law and performance. There’s an option to "change provider" right below the provider.

- The only thing we ask for is your email address, and you only have to wait shortly while they provision your new instance. Sign up approaches the simplicity of Google or Dropbox this way.

I’m curious to see how it will fare for you, and wish you best of luck. If you ever want to join us or collaborate regarding integration, you are very welcome → https://nextcloud.com/contribute/

There’s always Riot https://about.riot.im/ which is a nice and fully open source app so you could set that up on-premise too. :)

Yep. Perhaps emphasis on the "bundled with."

Unfortunately, I suspect Slack use at my company grew largely out of IT's unwillingness to spin up a web-facing IRC solution, and their unwillingness to expose internal services to the web. The latter is very convenient for sales or on-call employees. As a result of that security posture, we instead share tons of company secrets on a 3rd party service. It's kind of a weird local maxima.

Not sure why you're getting voted down. I'm looking for something to replace hip chat at the moment (we replaced slack with hipchat as slack didn't work well for us either), so I'm genuinely curious why a suggestion for riot is unpopular. Anyone care to comment?

What part of slack didn't work out for you? We're using slack at my workplace - and I think it's okish. Not a fan of it being a web app - but not frustrated enough yet to try the irc bridge with weechat (which is on my todo-list. Seems like a sane way forward, the last irc client I used was BitchX, and I don't think I'll likely to trust such an old c codebase with anything if I can help it..).

Now that everyone "knows" what slack is, I wonder if it's time to blow some dust off of Apache (née Google) wave...

The Slack IRC bridge works pretty well, IMO. I use it with irssi. The only negative I can think of is it joins you to every Slack channel you're in every time you reconnect. (Including #general, which you can't permanently leave.)

(I guess the other caveat is: it's a 3rd party hosted application; an internet outage or service outage could take it down, and it's potentially vulnerable to massive information leak in a way that your company isn't.)

Try the wee-slack plugin[https://github.com/wee-slack/wee-slack], it uses the Slack API and I have been using it on my Android phone(using Termux) and my Linux laptop, works great :)

As far as I can see, Tent unfortunately seems to be inactive. Last commit in 2013: https://github.com/tent/tentd, last blog post 2014: https://tent.io/blog

so we have a failed protocol from 4 years ago, what makes this remotestorage more likely to succeed?

Yeah, that would be me. :) At some point we supported it, but it turned out that for security reasons you would have to have a separate domain for your remoteStorage than your Nextcloud – which kind of defeats the purpose of easy integration.

At leas that is what I recall. Still think it would be great to integrate remoteStorage properly with Nextcloud! :)

Hmm, maybe you could use Content-Security-Policy to force the files to be treated by the browser as if they came from a different origin?

I think so, too. Let's make it happen! :)

Nextcloud designer here, thanks for mentioning and good to hear you’re happy! :)

Everyone is welcome to contribute at https://github.com/nextcloud/ :) And in case anyone is in Berlin, we’re having our annual conference at the moment! https://nextcloud.com/conf/

Thank you! I was not ready to make the jump to self hosting my own Dropbox alternative until I saw what a polished program you and your team put together. Great work!