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I would bet that it would not arrive in SF (at least the parts governed by Karl the Fog). Vision based sensors cannot slice through fog and rain and they would need constant take over by a driver.


They have one of the best Level 2 self-driving implementations on the market. It’s so good that I don’t even question the FSD tag. That said, I would never let my family ride in a Tesla robotaxi running on the existing suite of sensors and FSD. Does anyone know what needs to happen for Tesla to reach Level 5 autonomy? I get nervous letting the current FSD handle complicated intersections.


There is a grand canyon sized gulf between "best level 2 system" and "adequate level 5 system".


I wouldn’t step into a Tesla robotaxi in bad weather, period. They’d absolutely need a human remotely operating it. Without a steering wheel, passengers can’t take control even if they wanted to. Even in good weather, I’d be genuinely surprised if Teslas, in their current form, could drive around autonomously. I was really hoping Musk would mention new sensors being added for extra safety, maybe spinning it as: “Your Model 3 doesn’t need additional sensors, but just to be safe, we’re adding new ones.”


can multiple operators from India operate the robotaxis or does it need one on one operation? I mean consider the savings!


The latency will kill you.

Both figuratively and literally.

Maybe something like Mexico would be better.


Latency? That's when Starlink comes into play!


>The latency will kill you.

I mean - I wasn't thinking I would risk it!!


Just ranting here - The psychological disconnect between a remote operator and passengers in a robotaxi needs more research though. Remote operator might have less empathy and responsibility towards passengers possibly causing moral disengagement. The remote driver might never face the real-world aftermath of their actions, which can reduce their sense of remorse or responsibility. There could be complex legal dilemmas too (especially if operator is from a different country)

But this has definitely been researched a lot in the field of military drone operators who can make life altering decisions from thousands of miles away.


Wasn't the first iPhone demo totally buggy as well? It doesn't matter. Users have seen what ChatGPT can do, and the community was excited that Bing will offer it for free soon and is eager to pivot to it.


No the first iPhone demo went off without a hitch. In hindsight, we found out that the iPhone hardware and software was buggy during the demo and if SJ had deviated even slightly from the script it would have crashed.


At least they found the phone.


Hypothetically, Tesla would spin this story differently in no time if they are making great strides in a cheap solid-state radar.

For now, though, it looks like Tesla is building a case after they decided to do away with radar. I recall EM saying that it looks ugly and expensive too. I really got confused when Telsa came up with this patent though https://twitter.com/iamkellex/status/1534240730633236480?s=2...

No one sensor will work for all use cases; each has pros and cons. Radar really shines with depth sensing; it can cut through rain, fog, and snow like a hot knife through butter, much better than pure vision-based systems. At the same time, it seems to fail during harsh breaking and maybe a few other scenarios.


The ability to cut through rain, fog, and snow is precisely why so many companies use radar based systems - that's arguably when they are the most important and useful.

Leaning further into their vision systems when their vision systems cause their cars to slam into emergency vehicles that aren't even in travel lanes, and to rear-end tractor trailers, isn't encouraging. Musk is placing the rest of us at risk and I'm sick of it.


Have you seen a recent video of their most recent vision stack in use by a customer?


Nope! Why do you ask?


I wouldn't bet on this! For this, Twitter would have to divulge how many among the say 1000 followers are bots. Also, this is prone to abuse! An unnecessary follow will now be considered spam, and Twitter would have to build toolings to prevent that. It will drive creators out of Twitter. Sharing ad revenue with creators will be an excellent first step


300M is impressive, but we are missing the point here. Most of that count comes from involuntary herd signups by their enterprise customers. What Apple has done is impressive, (although they have equally questionable ways to retain customers). I am sure that at any point, a sizable chunk of Apple's 700M pie would be trial users, but still, it is a considerable number.


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