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From anecdotal experience, it makes essentially no difference.

I read for an hour or two before bed every night. Paper, kindle, or my current iPad mini make no real difference to my sleep.

Dim lights, relaxing, and trying to clear my brain of distractions other than what I’m reading make more of a difference. It’s almost but not quite like meditation.


This thread is bonkers. I'm not even American and it took me all of two minutes to find a bike for $118 USD (or about 90 GBP) available from Walmart. Here it is: https://www.walmart.com/ip/1121295

It looks like a perfectly serviceable bike, if not the most amazing experience. I bet you with proper maintenance it could last you decades and thousands of miles.

People in this thread who are claiming a new bike is nearly $1000 are on another planet.

I get that this isn't a wheelchair, doesn't have anything to do with wheelchair prices, and I would certainly not want to rely on this thing in the way a wheelchair user must rely on their chair, but c'mon, guys, stop with the wild hyperbole about bike prices.


> find a bike for $118 USD

You didn't find a bike. You found a box of parts. Read the page again:

> Mountain Bike Assembly - $99.00

If you want the box of parts assembled into a bike, it effectively doubles the price. Also there's no promise it's assembled correctly, or that the bike parts are actually good. "Proper maintenance" is a handwave for spending multiple times the cost of the bike to cover up the inadequacies of the bike.

https://www.whycycle.co.uk/buying-a-bike/beware-the-bicycle-...

> We generally recommend spending a MINIMUM of about £200 on most styles of adult bike [...] there are some reasonable quality bikes at below £200 but if you intend to buy at this price, do so from a reputable bike specialist.


https://www.vice.com/en/article/mechanics-ask-walmart-major-...

https://old.reddit.com/r/MTB/comments/z2d5h5/walmart_bike_un...

So for $118 you get a really poor quality bike that you probably can't repair. Or perhaps you'll end up with one that's just unsafe. $400–500 is probably a reasonable price point, but that'll get you something that's adequate at best. Heavy, clunky, and unpleasant to ride.


That ‘Heavy, clunky’ bit is key.

A good bike is addictive to ride. It’s like a sharp knife through butter.


Yes, the $118 bike is not going to be much fun, and may be assembled dangerously. It's still a bike, though, and a little TLC and attention to assembly before riding will prevent a significant number of problems. Even the reddit thread you linked just required some screw tightening and replacement of a derailleur -- and a cheap Shimano derailleur is $20 from my local bike store.

Even if we completely discount the $118 bike (plus a $20 part), though...

> $400–500 is probably a reasonable price point

This is a far cry from "much under a grand". Yes, it will be heavy and clunky, but it will function in all of the ways that it is important for a bike to function.


  Yes, the $118 bike is not going to be much fun, and may be assembled
  dangerously.
No, it'll be built dangerously. A cheap Shimano derailleur won't fix cracked welds or a broken frame. TLC won't make the frame true. Doubtful it'll last more than a few miles really.

  Yes, it will be heavy and clunky, but it will function in all of the ways
  that it is important for a bike to function.
Ehh it'll be the bare minimum that you probably won't want to use.

I got a cheap "bike" as a student and regretted it when a crank arm snapped clean off pulling away from the lights. No serious damage done to me, but the potential was there.

I used to buy cheapest I can get away of everything and I have to tell you, there is real difference between cheapest bikes you reference, bikes that cost few hundred $ and $1000 bike.

The difference is in speed, effectivity (how tired you get per km), comfort, how much it hurts when terrain is bad and pretty much any other factor you can think off. Those cheap bikes are fine if you go to work and back, 15min drive each way. Or for kids to play around town.

But if you bike a lot, then you really want better bike.


>This thread is bonkers

>People in this thread who are claiming a new bike is nearly $1000 are on another planet.

HN is absolutely chock full of people who have entirely lost touch with reality.

Anyways, my sister rode a $200 bike to work every day for like six years. Doing the math, about 19,000 miles. I grew up with a cheap Walmart bike and I had it for over a decade and probably at least 5,000 miles I would guess.


so out of touch you're using an example of a bike purchase from 6 years ago :^) did she also replace the tires 3 or 4 times? because no way any bike tire is taking 19,000 miles of road use no matter the brand. The average price of a new bike more than doubled from 2015 to 2024.

I mean, it’s one banana, Michael. What could it cost, ten dollars?

This thread is now full of people who, with real lived experience, will tell you that $200 bike served them perfectly well, but downvotes rain in from people who spend five times more than a middle-Americans month’s worth of savings on a bike and won’t hear of anything less.

It’s not often that the class divide on HN is so front and centre, but it is here.


200$ in what year? 1990? Go price out parts even the lowest their at a bike store and see what it would take to get a complete bike. Sure it might be cheaper in bulk but you will be within 30%.

Also everyone assumes assembly labor is free.


>It’s not often that the class divide on HN is so front and centre, but it is here.

It's an entire forum of people who have never experienced scarcity so they can't understand it.


Unlike a bike, where able-bodied individuals can take the trade off buying it for cheap and risking it breaking a weld and having to gasp walk.

People that are handicapped kind of need their wheelchair not to break unexpectedly.

I don't see anything being out of touch here. You can absolutely get a $100-$200 bike, and it's completely fine if your use is casual. You start going up in bike prices when you start talking about more and more serious use of bikes which is what probably users here think of. Road bikes are hyper focused on cutting every gram with the most efficient cranksets, MTBs are focused on shear abuse and you absolutely will destroy a $100 bike in a month if you actually ride seriously.


You just linked to a $118 box of parts (or $217 if you want it assembled). This is an absolutely trash bike.

You can get a nice bike that, while not fancy and might weigh more than it needs to, will last years and be safe provided it's maintained, for about £200-£300 ($260-$400 USD) in todays prices. If you bought a bike for $200 years ago, then this is the price bracket you were buying into, not the cheap shit. You can then get increasingly good bikes as you go to $1000 and beyond.

You seem to be be blithely unaware how shit the cheapest bikes are these days. I've had bikes where the crankset literally sheared off, where the frame's welds have cracked rather than the suspension failing, where the brake cables have snapped, where the chain has snapped, where bolts have rusted, where the plastic twist-shifters can't hold a gear and drop them as you go over cobblestones, where things have broken because the minimum wage supermarket employee who knows nothing about bikes has assembled it wrong. This will be the average person's experience with the cheapest-of-the-cheap bikes, and the only way they'd be happy with it is if they don't really use the bike much, or they keep it indoors and don't cycle in the rain, or there are no hills where they live, and so on.

It only costs a little more for a hard-wearing, all-weather bike. Not thousands more. If the most you can afford are these shitheaps, I feel sorry for you, and I recommend you look for a bike charity in your area that will sell you or give you a decent second-hand/donated bike that has been checked over by a decent bike mechanic.


You can get a Ricoh G900 II, which was released earlier this year, for sub-$800.

It's also fully automatic and doesn't require you to do much with knobs and dials. And it's waterproof!

I suspect you'll complain about it though.


No changeable lenses and not a full-frame sensor, does not support RAW.

I'm seriously interested in buying a reasonably-priced modern mirrorless camera with GPS. I'm not joking, I've been looking for a while to replace my old Sony Alpha.


I recommend Olympus for that. They're reasonably priced, generally more technologically progressive than bigger brands like Nikon, Canon, or Sony, have a small form factor owing to their Micro Four Thirds sensor, have GPS, and still have a decent set of modern and legacy lenses (which are also commensurately lighter and smaller than similar lenses on APS-C or full-frame systems).

I tried to check and it looks like the only model that fits is Olympus E-M1X ($2k on clearance sales). And it's 6 years old by now :(

Anything newer is $5k+. Or does not have replaceable lenses.


Is the 6 years old point relevant to you?

Kinda? I want to replace my 7-year old Sony Alpha with something out of this decade.

Look that the timestamp, friend. This is likely a “second chance” for this submission.


ah, i see it now, ok!


You don't have to be a rabid nationalist to not wish for your country to be invaded and annexed by others. You don't even have to live there. I'm sure a large percentage of Taiwanese living in countries outside of Taiwan would not wish for it to be invaded.

I'm not even Taiwanese, don't know anyone of Taiwanese descent well, and I don't want Taiwan invaded.

The suggestion that there's some kind of weird oligarchy class of TSMC-controlling Taiwanese who couldn't give a toss if Taiwan was invaded is a mustache-twirling level of caricature.


Gwern and the articles examples are not terribly well known for output of interactive fiction that is almost but not quite a video game, so most of it does not apply.


I have nothing to add to the conversation but love the continual degrading of coherency with the acronym used.

Next comment someone please call it HGGHT.


Using Vogon poetry


HGGHT

Is bureaucratically

Not Exact enough you see

----------------------

We will be denying

your acronym

and you will be dying

Just like him

did.

on edit: HN formatting is in violation of several rules and will be punished.


It depends on what you mean by "what happened". If what you're talking about happening to those companies is how much money they make, you're totally right.

That said, your reply is a bit of a non sequitur. The thread is largely about answering the question of "why do you work at Amazon?", and I haven't seen anyone saying the answer is because of how much money Amazon makes. I also haven't seen anyone say they quit because Amazon appears to be on the same financial trajectory as GE or Boeing.

I bet you a tonne of people would agree that there's a culture shift away from valuing the experience of the boots-on-the-ground operational folk at all of those companies, which is why they don't want to work there.


This comment seems completely at odds with history and how people actually acted prior to the smartphone revolution.

Film camera sales proceeded on a steady incline from their invention until the introduction of the digital camera.

Digital camera sales increased year on year for every year of their existence prior to the introduction of the smartphone.

Approximately everybody wants to have photos of their precious memories, and the idea that people wouldn't have kept buying digital cameras if smartphones didn't incorporate them is, to be frank, a little bit silly.

The primary difference between digital cameras and smartphones was that every family I knew had a digital camera, where every person I know has a smartphone. And every single person I know uses the camera on their smartphone very regularly.


> Approximately everybody wants to have photos of their precious memories

I guess the idea is all your memories are precious. What the parent poster said certainly resonated with me: most of them are not.

Writing is also a big part of history, which also gave us the ability to preserve our most special events since over 6,000+ years ago. This is the first century that isn't permeated with unknowns because few made any deliberate attempt to record things - and we had the option to paint on a cave wall for 10,000s of years before that too.


That's not my point at all. My point is rather more mundane than that: People like cameras and taking photos. That's why they kept buying them as standalone devices until smartphones were good enough to replace having a standalone camera.

If the king of the universe suddenly decreed cameras on phones verboten, people would go back to buying standalone cameras, not back to floral written descriptions, commissioning a portrait on canvas, or cave paintings.


> The primary difference between digital cameras and smartphones was that every family I knew had a digital camera, where every person I know has a smartphone

The real difference is the rise of social media. Digital camera photos were taken for you, for your family and close friends.

In the post-facebook world we live in now, smartphone photos are taken for other people - a curated snapshot of your life to show off to acquaintences and strangers. Something of the intimacy of photography has been lost.


I work a full time tech job, I am out with friends or on a “date night” with my partner three or four times a week every week, and I have a few hobbies like music production and combat robotics.

I get at least 8 hours every night. My “must be home and in bed” time on a weeknight is by 12:30AM, and I sleep in until 8:45AM. I am normally woken by my alarm.

Weekends I simply set an alarm for 9 hours after I get in bed, which sometimes means sleeping until 2PM.

I don’t eat breakfast, and I basically never commute in the morning, but if I do, my office is about 15 minutes away.


Yeah not having to commute helps.

More than lack of time, I'm usually too tired after a full day of work (8 or 9 till 6 or 6:30) to do anything else.


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