You don't need an Android phone for messengers.

Just get Beeper and a Linux Matrix Client and you can communicate with iMessage, Telegram and WhatsApp users without having an Android phone

My bank account works in the Browser

Bank App, NFC bank card payments?

Tap and pay or paywave are the best thing to happen in mobile IMO. I don't even carry a wallet anymore. I had having to carry a phone and wallet. Now it's back down to only have to carry one thing. Perfect

> I don't even carry a wallet anymore.

That is a lot of faith in the technology. You don't worry about a dead battery? Cracked screen? Phone getting stolen out of your hand in the subway?

Home is never far away. If something like that happened 99.9% of things can wait until I've been home to collect my wallet. Just as much chance if me loosing my wallet as most of the things you mentioned.

I don't trust phone security enough to do that.

It's the same as having a credit card for web orders that has a lower limit, you load the same card into the phone...

> My bank account works in the Browser

Sounds like pure hell on mobile.

It isn't though. What fits into a app screen of a phone also fits into a browser screen on a phone

how your bank's push notifications work without native app? Recently I see there is fingerprint support in browsers on Android, but AFAIK it's quite new - have you had to enter password each time?

Webpush is a thing? But I don't get push notifications from my bank, so I don't know what I would be missing?

Also, not everyone is willing to use fingerprints, so there's that too.

I'm interested in technical possibility, so I can understand utility limits/options.

Willing or unwilling is per person and bit different question which is out of my interest for now.

I think he made it very clear as the lack of salt will make you suffer

> It’s don’t change anything,

This all lab grown meat is about (for the consumers)

I think you should do that as well for meat of animals that once lived, perhaps even with images (of the reality of course)

Yes, my butcher does that. When you enter the shop you have a beautiful picture of the cow that was used, as well as where it comes from.

Wouldn't look that beautiful usually (90+% the cases)

Yes, but when you raise your cattle in the best conditions you get the best meat. And I only want the best meat. That 10% basically.

Though the lab grown meat dream in itself represents nostalgia, protecting the past and no interest in change as well (you could very well switch to a more plant based diet)

Why should one make such a law?

With meat there is more demand on agriculture

Destroying what we live of is not rational

> Those were maybe 1000-2000 of the one million. Adding a constant additional workload of up to 30% (you also have to run CI and everything on older devices) for 1000-2000 users is just not feasible.

This mentality is one of the reasons why there's only such much people with older phones.

> If you want to continue to use older hardware, just accept that you also have to use older software.

I don't think we should accept that easily, because after all there are physical (somewhat finite) resources and external costs such as green house gas emissions involved when new hardware gets produced.

Why do you think this is good?

I think animal foods are very healthy and the CO2 emissions/environmental effects of cattle are usually overblown.

One "study" I saw claimed cattle used 1000000x more water than grains. But they counted the rainfall on the entire grazing area as consumed by the cattle, which is obviously nonsense. It goes back into the cycle. (As does the water the cattle consume, of course.)

> CO2 emissions/environmental effects of cattle are usually overblown.

Methane production from cattle is not a blip. Whatever statistic you pick, it's one of the major contributing factors to agricultural emissions.

We tend to consume too much meat. The US in particular is the top consumer of meat per inhabitant, like 300% more than the recommended meat consumption for a healthy diet (about 100g/day of red meat, before cooking).

So you can argue that an omnivorous diet is healthy, but we clearly over-produce meat and over-eat it by a very large margin.

I think quite the opposite - a beef-only diet, very high in fat, is probably the evolutionary diet we're most adapted too. After all we only started cultivating grains about 10,000 years ago. It was large, fatty megafauna for hundreds of thousands of years before that.

That study (if true) is obviously exaggerated, but the main issue is water diverted from rivers like the Colorado. Cows milk requires something like double the water of almond milk and an order of magnitude more water than oat milk.

> I think animal foods are very healthy

There are countless studies showing a link between red meat and negative health effects, and there is probably no safe amount. Are you saying all the studies are wrong? What evidence do you have to support your claim?

Those studies have been debunked. Current state of science is that there is no indication that reduction of red meat consumption would bring any health benefits.