xdotool, definitely program that required me 10000²² hours : firefox, thund' and gimp+blender

I will translate that very surprising comment whom made my choice : --start of comment--

[quote]does S76 announces they're targetting to recreate their own desktop from scratcch, or they "just modify things" whom are not really good with the gnome desktop of today, keeping the rest (running GTK if Im well)? [/quote]

Official communication(1) says "we're doing to do our own desktop because gnome extensions are too breakable". Indeed, Cosmic-desktop was until there a gnome modified, with extensions, whom can by definition(2) be bugged/breaked/misfunctionnal at each gnome update. This decision could be comprehensible for a company who install it on computers to sell.

But I think we might not forget the fuming writing(3) that Chris Davies published shortly afterwards. As explained, some S76 devs badmouth a bit regarding Gnome devs riding their bad reputation (not diserved at all imho) and of lost-minded nerds flooding the r/gnome subreddit and comments on OMGubuntu. The announce of Cosmic being rewrited in Rust has been then shown as a divorce between S76 and gnome, on the exclusive wrongdoing of that last one. It personnaly a view whom makes me sick, as some people said it here already. Budgie said more or less the same thing announcing last december they will re-write their desktop environnment in ELF(4), accusing the GtK project of being running for the particular interests of Gnome[teams]. It's very hard for me to see that as something else than a true and real bad faith. Few years earlier, Linux Mint and elementary, decided their own desktop environnment in replacement of Gnome, and the three projects has followed a distinct path while keeping a good harmony (and staying based on GTK!)

it's very frustrating to see those quarrels blocking on the path of the linux desktop adoption, because it's really about it : we're not talking here about niche desktops like sway or lxqt, but about what can permit to a huge amount of users to emancipate of microsoft and Apple. If it's still considered as a relevant idea.

1: www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2021/11/system76-is-building-its-own-desktop-environment

2: fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monkey-Patch

3: linuxfr.org/users/anonyme/liens/system76-a-case-study-on-how-not-to-collaborate-with-upstream

blogs.gnome.org/christopherdavis/2021/11/10/system76-how-not-to-collaborate/

4: joshuastrobl.com/2021/09/14/building-an-alternative-ecosystem/

--end of comment--

this is the reason why, on my own, I litterally prefer LMDE, with openbsd and haiku to accompany.

ubuntu is just the apple of linux world ubuntu is everything working out of the box ubuntu is made with the foundation of an ex businessman whom dislikes win/mac

ubuntu is a linux among hundreds of linux distros

openbsd is a rock-solid safe regarding security everything is handlymade to get a taylored-made computer.

if I had to compare, ubnutu is a bit like a high rank standing appartment in a big city where openbsd is a very nice home handly made to answer to all your choices and decision, whom might not be delivered with several defaults when you receive the keys ;)

Ubuntu was my first choice to make the jump from Windows. My current daily driver is Pop!OS, which seems equally user friendly to Ubuntu with minor differences in the details of usage.

I've been using Linux since RedHat 5.x "pocketbooks" with CDs were available at newsagencies (late nineties?), so I'm not scared of the prospect of having some fiddling to do in setting up OpenBSD. The main concern would be the availability of compatible apps that I use regularly.

just to add my participation, Im using openbsd through dwm (isotop project) or xfce, it depends.

rest of time, using lmde, not bad.. does macos have still users? :D

I do. two laptops, even if I have warnings regarding usage : if you do like (as I do) having software regarding good hw support, well, I sadly had to exclude nvidia-only-GC-based laptop because it's only vesa (means 100% loading on your CPU instead gpu), or the same regarding wifi.

I do really like openbsd. On my machines, laptops, I do have triboot win/nux/bsd. Nux is LMDE5, debian with cool/glamour/user-ended focused debian distro. Then openbsd running isotop project, means dwm adapted for end users or devs, for the one whom have low specs of hardware (2013 laptop, still running today), plus xfce on another asus, whom wifi AND amd radeon chips are well supported. sadly, my main lenovo have only integrated intel graphics (not so sad) but my broadcom is not detected for wifi, I use it only once a week, mainly in places I have no internet. Please be careful regarding filesystems, openbsd is a very specific area, ext4 is just nobody for that os.

excepted filesystems, wifi/graphical hardware support, plus sometime the lack of "trended"-software ports (eg falkon, and others) to the system, in less than four months I adopted it ; on my hp, Im using LO to write (or wordgrinder), plus thundie for my mails, and firefox/iridium/midori.

Veracrypt is supported since latest version. And with time passes, lot of new features, even if it's designed for specific or servers systems, makes system greater. In addition, everything is made to make the system tailored to your needs and wishes. I do really like it, including the /home encyphered part.

to finish, I would say trying openbsd is like learning arabic : only the beginning -the installation- is the most "complicated" thing, with everything in command line, including the slices (aka subpartitions) ; then I added it to grub2, then installed isotop or/and xfce and you have a good environment of work.

why openbsd? because its C coding (best of all) because its highly secured. because its a demanding project for his maintainers and teams because of purety of code because its one among the rare systems you can use on desktops/laptops (not only thinkpads!) as haiku, whom is not a linux system.

I would add : why-openbsd (dot) rocks isopenbsdsecu (dot) re enjoy!