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There's way more to this story as people are pointing out.

I talk about a lot of this stuff with nutrition experts on my podcast http://peak-human.com and am getting the author of this article on soon.


I'm making the film http://FoodLies.org and have interviewed a lot of top researchers, doctors, and though leaders of all aspects of nutrition and even the environmental impact of eating different foods. I picked the most important topics and people and got them to do an audio interview with me as well. I modeled it after the awesome "How to Start a Startup" class with Sam Altman.


http://nutritiondata.self.com uses the USDA database.

I made a diet with only 5 foods (plus butter) that is ideal for human health and weight loss (posted on this thread).


The diet I created and posted here is only $2,000 per year and includes fresh, nutritious foods that don't detract from your health like most of those foods loaded with carbohydrate and sugar would in your example.

Obviously they aren't comparable, I just think it's cool you could live in perfect health for a year for $2,000


Very cool. I just did a similar exercise also based on a lot of research (posted it on this thread). Interested in your thoughts.


I just did my own version of this diet with a nutrient-dense low-carb approach.

Ground beef: $3.50/lb = $2.19/day

Sardines: $9.99 for 6 - 4.375 oz = $1.67/can = $1.67/day

Fresh spinach: $3.99/2.5 lb (.35 cents/g) = $.84/day

Eggs: $7.99/ 5 dozen (13.3 cents/egg) = $.40/day

Sunflower seeds: $2.49/lb = $.36/day

Butter: $9.99 for 4lbs = $2.50/lb = $.12 cents/day

Total cost: $5.58/day

This is 1800 calories and is 65% fat, 30% protein, and 5% carbohydrate. I used http://nutritiondata.self.com to formulate it and it meets or (far) exceeds every vitamin and mineral requirement except for only 50% DV of Thiamin (not worried about this).

I basically do a version of this but with more expensive boneless short rib (very marbled and delicious) and am in perfect shape (you can find evidence here if you scroll down a bit https://twitter.com/FoodLiesOrg )

Spreading this menu over 2 meals (one at noon and one at 7:30pm) will give you a nice intermittent fast. It will also train your body to burn fat instead of sugar. You will be very full off of only 1800 calories and should lose a lot of weight.

Disclaimer: I'm not dispensing nutritional advice as I am not a doctor or dietician. I've just researched this stuff for years and am making the documentary http://foodlies.org


This can all be bought at Costco with the exception of Sunflower seeds on Amazon.


If anyone is trying to lose weight and wants to try this simple and cheap diet (or similar) I would love to document it for the film. Contact me at hi@foodlies.org


"Eggs: $7.99/ 5 dozen (13.3 cents/egg) = $.40/day"

Wait, does that mean 3 eggs/day? That would be asking for troubles (cholesterol).


The hypothesis about dietary cholesterol causing heart disease has been debunked.

"Previously, the Dietary Guidelines for Americans recommended that cholesterol intake be limited to no more than 300 mg/day. The 2015 DGAC will not bring forward this recommendation because available evidence shows no appreciable relationship between consumption of dietary cholesterol and serum cholesterol, consistent with the conclusions of the AHA/ACC report."

Source: https://health.gov/dietaryguidelines/2015-scientific-report/...

(Office of Disease Prevention and Health Promotion, U.S. Department of Health and Human Services - ODPHP)


Dietary cholesterol is actually not bad - check out this article for a good overview https://chriskresser.com/the-diet-heart-myth-cholesterol-and...

Have been researching this for a long time. It was hard for me to believe at first, but the science is sound.


> It was hard for me to believe at first

Nina Teicholz has a lot to say about the garbage state of nutritional science, the AHA and just how much expensive taxpayer-funded research has been buried over the past 50 years.

[0] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2_kEmYTiHtc


I was being coy. I've read Nina's book and heavily researched all of this. I'm glad you and other people know about this stuff. Let's make this common knowledge!


Vegetarian alternative possible?


I'm not a fan of a vegetarian diet because it leaves out the most nutrient dense foods.

I haven't done research into it specifically, but I would avoid carbs and sugar (and all processed foods), and eat a lot of avocado and protein from non-carby foods (beans and quinoa are ok, but still have a lot of carbohydrate).


google "vegetarian LCHF"


I have a friend who is somewhat of a "evolution denier" (he's not religious and actually very intelligent). I was thinking about this from his perspective and would like someone else perspective.

"On human terms, the LTEE generations span the equivalent of well more than a million years of human evolution."

Haven't we evolved a lot more in 68,000 generations than the bacteria have? Or put another way, all the bacteria has done in this time period is go from consuming glucose to citrate, nothing else in its shape, structure, etc. So how did humans and other creatures evolve so much over 68,000 generations?

I am 100% on board with evolution, I'm just curious about this. This is only 6-7 times more generations than when humans split from chimps (quick google search said 6-7 million years ago).

Is it because we have way more interaction with our environment and these bacteria are just in a little petri dish? Sounds likely.

Has anyone ever heard of people questioning evolution? I think he was saying something about how impossible it would be to have every single thing we see in nature be pre-written in DNA - it has just been all expressed in genes over the millennia through natural selection.


Sexual reproduction allows beneficial mutations to spread and recombine in a population much faster than asexual reproduction (yes, e.coli has conjugation, but it's nowhere near as powerful). A complex trait might require multiple mutations to support it-- a gene pool that's constantly mixed by sexual reproduction will have much higher chances of the combination arising than with asexual reproduction.

You can observe the same thing in genetic algorithms, where crossover ("sexual" reproduction / mixing of two candidates) is often performed because it creates more viable offspring than simple cloning with mutations.


Because we and other mammals are much more complex lifeforms than bacteria, and likely have systems that help us adapt/evolve faster.


I 100% agree we need to change our factory farming practices...

However, What the Health was riddled with lies, bad science, and misinformation.

https://www.dietdoctor.com/health-review-health-claims-backe...

https://www.vox.com/science-and-health/2017/7/25/16018658/wh...

Even a vegan dietitian admits it is full of misinformation and bad science and calls for an end to this practice https://www.vegan.com/posts/vegan-dietitian-review-what-the-...


Not correct - this is (very successful) vegan propaganda. Look into it more.

I interviewed Dr. Shawn Baker MD who has done this for a year now. As carb intake decreases the need for vitamin C decreases. He takes no supplements and is in perfect health.

The real problem is carbs and sugar. I don't believe anyone needs to take it the extreme of going all meat - just cut down/out carbs and sugar and you will have lifelong health.


There's no reason to ever go back to eating carbs, all they do is damage.

There actually isn't a ton of hormones and antibiotics in grocery store meat, it's mostly vegan propaganda I believed in until last week when I actually researched it. Soy products have 1000 times the hormones than any piece of meat.


Phytohormones don't bind to human receptors.


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