I've seen exactly this situation before and it went to hell pretty quickly. The new engineers genuinely have no idea what they have on their hands until something goes snap. And it will go snap.
Actually the guy who set up Just Stop Oil was interviewed a while back and said it was never about climate but being against the system. Managed to loop a bunch of lunatics into doing his bidding initially.
As for Aileen Getty, I'm on the fence. I think she has good intentions but threw money at these morons.
As for the morons, while I agree the message is good, the approach does nothing but damage the cause. They recently smashed all the pumps at my local petrol station. All that you end up with is pissed off people who associate the cause with negative people. This is a universally downward spiral.
Google isn't showing me who that is; the only results I'm getting talk about the Getty heiress. Can you please tell us what that guy's name is and ideally a link to the story you're referring to?
What other methods have these people tried that have failed? How do you measure the success of this method in terms of achieving desired results? Is there data that shows traditional marketing is less effective at achieving the particular aim of this cause; whatever that aim is (because I'm not sure).
In terms of just spending money to stop climate change; do you have data to show that this method is more effective than spending the money on green energy research or other direct funding?
It seems incredibly vague to say that "working within the system doesn't have any effect" but I'd love to see the data that this is more effective than putting ads on TV in terms of actually getting people to support your cause.
Sorry, if we would be honest, we know that "they" did all you ask for a long time and nothing worked. We would need serious change RIGHT NOW, but we are slamming this planet against a wall.
I'm not on their side, I don't think it is good.. but I'm really surprised by the non-empathy of many here.. those folks are kind of panicking for the future and imo radicalization if nothing happens will become much worse - this glueing is also kind of little self-destruction, and in the end still a very peaceful protest. And it least gets them attention. And while I have accepted the fate that future generations (if they are there haha) will hate us for what we have done, or what we have not done, in my lazy chair.. and while I would similarly judge those activists for doing some non-sense.. if I'm honest, I have no clue what they should do better. Resigned, kind of. We all know not much will happen. :(
What you do here is really just very top-down distracting rhetoric, imo ;)
There are millions of people around the world pushing the science and technology forward - this is the only way. Thinking you can just change the system on whim is childish as these protesters.
Yes you’re not going to get anywhere from inside the system but the system is propped up by a faction of people who have vested interests in making money out of short term thinking.
The only solution is to target those people directly and make it too risky to do business which is environmentally reckless.
As an engineer I regularly get pulled into customer calls.
It's really important to know how disconnected you are from customers. On every single occasion at every organisation I have worked for I have discovered great disparity between the user's desires and problems and what is communicated through the layers.
Layering communication is dangerous!
Also quite frankly sometimes it's only engineering who can turn an angry customer back into a happy one because they are the only people who can really action change.
>On every single occasion at every organisation I have worked for I have discovered great disparity between the user's desires and problems and what is communicated through the layers.
This is a quality problem of the people doing the communicating. We need those people to do better, not drop engineers to get the real story
>Also quite frankly sometimes it's only engineering who can turn an angry customer back into a happy one because they are the only people who can really action change.
This is true, but the engineer doesn't (shouldn't?) have to be the face of that. Once you allow customers to escalate directly with engineers, they'll see the rest of your support process as bullshit.
I agree i learn something everytime i get involved with a support case, its nice to see your system from the other side aswell now and then, but i would absolutely hate to be in full customer support role.
Thats what I am planning to do as well. Do you have any kind of strategies you have developed? Do you write tests for the order of assertions (entering temporal logic)?
Honestly I don’t write that many tests these days other than integration and functional tests. The assertions are incredibly good at breaking those if anything goes wrong so you need less (unit) test cases. The test cases are always brittle too.
As for strategies, I pepper asserts on inputs and outputs of functions to remove any assumptions about scale and state which are not enforceable by the contract at compile time. Additionally I will tend to assert conditions which need to be in place within the functions. Rarely does anything need any more than that.
Assertions are left in production and any identifiable errors or throws are turned into defects and resolved as priority 1 cases.
