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Thanks, I thought I was the only one noticing this.

One interesting point you make is that young people have a very hard time with the economical situation. A lot of them seem apathetic, they literally say to me that they don't want to work because they cannot afford anything anyway (here in the Netherlands the housing prices are insane, an simple appartment now costs half a million euros in the Hague, and that's not even the city center).


Apathy is always a symptom, never a cause, or so I’ve come to learn. What I used to blame on “voter apathy” was really just a symptom of politics in the USA becoming so stagnant and detached from the struggles of workers that any intense emotion or platform would’ve lit a fire under the electorate (see the optimism of the initial Obama campaign, the repugnancy of the Tea Party, or the naked hostility of Trump). Likewise, apathy in the case you describe is their way of communicating that they see no value in engaging with a system they perceive is broken, which is itself a profound warning that they’re susceptible to demagogues and populism. A healthy society recognizes apathy as a red flag and addresses it early, while declining societies ignore it (Japan) or blame the apathetic (USA) for the failings of the system.

Do not blame the apathetic for simply refusing to play a rigged game. Instead, listen to their grievances and work with them to bring about positive change.


Yes, I understand that. It all just seems so grim?


It's grim because it's mostly a made up, self-centered, apocalyptic view of the world - great in one's youth and now fallen. I think your other instinct - 'maybe I'm just getting old' is truer, and better - that doesn't have to be nearly as grim as the coping-mechanism-cum-manifesto in the GP comment would have you believe.


Alternatively, notice how detractors to a well thought-out argument that attempts to distill decades of history into a single comment within a larger thread, immediately devolve into flailing insults rather than offering a compelling counter-narrative.

Sure, pvg's bite-sized nugget of McWisdom holds generally true for any topic covering a span of time and wrapped in the cloak of biological aging, but notice how it also does nothing to provide sustenance in the form of tangible examples, counter-arguments, or advice. It's convenient, sure, but hardly nourishing.


I don't think you misrepresenting the period in bombastic terms for effect provides sustenance or requires counter-arguments because it's just you misrepresenting the period in bombastic terms for effect. I think the advice of not taking a sequence of Manichean tropes and slogans too much to heart remains pretty useful!


It is, and it sucks, but it's not forever unless we want it to be.

That's how I deal with it anyway. YMMV.


That's nice, but tiktok seems such a weird way of sharing it. I mean, how can you search for certain recordings/performances or discuss it? It's just an ever going list of movies, with no structure, you cannot even predict what comes next... It seems hard to follow someone at all. You just have to wait until a certain clip comes along. It's total chaos. But like I said, maybe I am just getting too old.


I believe in POSSE

https://www.theverge.com/2023/10/23/23928550/posse-posting-a...

even if I don't always practice it. I am sick and tired of Mastodonsters who think I'm a sell-out for being on Bluesky because I think you should be on all the socials.


Well, every young person I know is constantly glued to the phone watching tiktok. I don't mean to be negative. I installed tiktok myself, but I could not really understand what they like about it. Maybe you can explain? I tried to understand (seriously), kept swiping etc, but it simply did not work for me. I would love to understand them better. But that's the point. It's hard to communicate with them. They seem very shy.


How excited were you about talking to your elders when you were a teenager?


I showed them my game on the c64 ;-) No, I talked a lot with my elders when I was young. And I also talked a lot about tech to millenials when they were young, even helped them to learn coding or other tech. It's just that the youngest generation seems so insanely hard to reach. Or maybe I am just getting too old.


So we get their disinformation then...


Plan9 is by far the most fascinating computer operating system I have ever seen. Truly amazing. This is a whole new level of out-of-the-box thinking... Does anyone know if there are any books about this OS?


Can anyone give me some answers on two major problems I see with bitcoin/crypto:

- Not decentralized (51% attack, even worse with PoS), still subject to manipulation therefore

- Privacy, transactions can be traced back, therefore they can be censored/rejected

At least with plain cash I can have anonymity.


As many others here have pointed out, we stumble upon a fundamental issue with blockchains here. The thing that's inside the blockchain can be verified but as long as it points to something in the physical world or to be more precise, outside the chain, you have a weak link. People can ignore to respect the NFT, or simply choose to reject it. Tokens in themselves have no intrinsic value, unlike a painting, a commodity (like gold or even uranium). Of course, there is one exception to this; money. That's why bitcoin was a slightly better idea (but it suffers from different problems in my opinion). The ultimate conclusion for me at least is this one, ownership, art, justice (legal blockchains, smart contracts), these are all social problems and they cannot be solved with mere technology. Technology may help of course, but in the end I strongly believe that social problems require social solutions, not technical ones. For instance, consider bitcoin, with a 51% attack you could gain control over the chain, with PoS big stakers have control, this means you just traded the bankers of today with some other bankers. In the case of NFT, you could have a token that indicates you're the owner of a painting, but if that painting is stolen and sold by people who don't care about your NFT, what's the point? Stealing, in this case is a social problem, not a technological one.


Well there is Citrine: https://citrine-lang.org/ - it offers a specialized version for over 110 human languages.


I personally use it a lot for my projects, so I thought, why not share it. I find this solution very nice to work with and it saves me a lot of time.


If there are some people familiar with Urdu (that also like to code) I would like to get in touch because I am working on a localized programming language system (Citrine) and I would love to discuss potential issues with Urdu to improve the project (Citrine/Ur - example here: https://citrine-lang.org/docs/ur/a0f6266a29591acf2f705657a90... ). Please get in touch.


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