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> “Hey, I heard about the news. I don’t have the right words and please don’t feel obligated to reply. Just know that if I can do something, big or small, now or in the future, I’m just a text away.”

i like this


I don't like it personally. I feel it is exaggerated, especially the part "I don't have the right words" I would feel awkward if I were on the receiving end — I lost my job, not someone died. Maybe it is just me, I get awkward easily, for context.

It highly depends on the context. Are they 20-something single person working on a high-pay job, or someone older with a family to support and struggling? The response needs to be different.


There are no universally applicable "right words" for this (or many other situations), so sometimes "I do have the right words" are the right words because they do a good job at conveying the speaker's intent (of showing that they care and are there to help).


Maybe instead of that sentence, if you really like them and would like to see them again, tell them you would like to see them again sometimes?


I wrote the article - Thanks, means a lot to me!


"...a phone call away" for cultures and ages that prefer speaking to texting. :-)


"Hey you up for meeting for a coffee this weekend?" works too.

It's also more concrete and proactive than telling them they can talk to you. The coffee chat situation allows more open conversation too.


I don't know for me it's just not necessary. I know who has my back already. This would just feel like pandering. I'd rather people didn't act like I suffered a traumatic life event. It's just a job after all.


For me something more appropriate might be:

"Hey, I heard about the news. Let me know if there's anything I can do to help, big or small."

Or for someone I'm close to:

"Heard you got laid off. That fucking sucks. How are you holding up?"


marcus brownlee did a great review of their car (not this one specifically). I recommend everyone take the time to watch it if they're interested. He's a big tesla fanboy but definitely gives lucid a LOT of credit on things they do better than tesla. Came off as very balanced and fair


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4yjRIcRc9qY

MKBHD is an awesome reviewer of many things. I just love his videos.


> MKBHD is an awesome reviewer of many things.

I want to disagree with you there, but if I do basically all other YT reviewers get thrown into the mix too.

Let me preface this with: I haven't watched his reviews, or most reviewers in a year or two.

So many of them just read the spec sheets to a camera, then add something like "It's amazing to me, personally I've loved (insert some aspect of the device the marketing department is focusing on this year)."

Now, to be specific with him, to me it seems like he just doesn't care anymore. So many flubs that should have just been reshot, or him reading a spec sheet wrong.

But I think this is a symptom of nobody (ok, the general public) really wanting in depth testing reviews. They want eye candy that reassures their pre-made decision.


> The company’s silence on the incident is a particularly dramatic reflection of a core dynamic in America’s new space race: The unspoken truth that human lives are at play at every level.

???? Does a company need to make an announcement or public statement for every incident that occurs at work?

There are risks at every job. How is this even an article-worthy?


> There are risks at every job. How is this even an article-worthy?

A sadly large % of the people reading news on-line have nearly forgotten that hazardous real-world jobs still exist. (Vs. office jobs where "fell and sprained wrist while getting out of an extra-comfy wheely chair" is just about the worst workplace injury they can imagine.)

Also, it's SpaceX. Loads of construction, roofing, etc. workers get maimed & killed every year, and are barely worth a passing mention in the local paper.


It's not about the number but about the reason.

There is a difference if a job is dangerous and somebody gets hurt or dies despite compliance with all safety measures or if an accident happens because of safety violations.


Reasonable Assumption: A whole lot of the barely-covered injuries and deaths at various little tree-trimming, construction, roofing, etc. firms also involve safety violations.


I'd imagine they're silent regarding it because 1) it's an active safety investigation 2) legal will be involved 3) it's frankly nobody else's business, seeing as it's a private business


OSHA incidents probably don't fit the "nobody's business" pattern, in the same way major breaches like the one that happened at Uber don't.


Is this meant to say, if it's an OSHA involved incident, it should be made public knowledge?


I'd remove the word "should". OSHA incidents create public records. They are, by definition, our business.


I was not actually aware these incidents were made public record, so TIL. For this specific instance, here is a link for any interested. https://www.osha.gov/pls/imis/establishment.inspection_detai...


Essentially all public functions that create records create, by definition, public records. There are exceptions, but they're much narrower than you'd expect. You're entitled to demand copies of the records that federal agencies collect, and those records are created with the expectation that they can be produced on demand. Most agencies do a reasonable job of making things overtly public, so you can just download them. But even if they don't, you can just FOIA them.


>”2) legal will be involved”

In court, an apology, even something as simple as saying “sorry”, can be used as an admission of guilt. It behooves them to say as little as possible.


I mean #2 is obviously correct but that shouldn't make the public feel any better. Precisely because there are downsides (including legal and political) for announcing incidents they will only do so if they have to.


> that shouldn't make the public feel any better

The incident was reported to a federal agency. I’m not sure I’d want my medical history publicly aired if I were injured at work.


https://www.gofundme.com/f/help-the-cabadas-during-this-diff...

The family started a public GoFundme page. I think its clear that it is in the interest of both the family and labor at large to get stories about workplace injuries to the public.


It's interesting to note that the family has changed the main picture to remove any overt SpaceX references.


Workplace safety violations are absolutely society's "business."


> frankly nobody else's business, seeing as it's a private business

Uhh, wut? How many people have to die inside a private business before it does become other peoples business. And how do you know if you've got your blinders on.


>3) it's frankly nobody else's business, seeing as it's a private business

It is however a private business taking public money. If a government was pumping millions of dollars into a company that was producing an unsafe work environment resulting in injury and death (not saying that is the case) but I think the public has a right to know.


I pump money into a lot of local businesses, and yet they never send me workplace safety reports.


That's OSHA's job, not SpaceX's. And I don't think you can take a single incident and use that to determine if a workplace is safe or not. Especially considering the context of it being a rocket factory.


Because openness about failure is indicative of willingness to accept criticism. Doesn't mean they need to accept fault.

Being completely silent on the matter gives the appearance that they are pretending it didn't happen, that they want no one asking questions about it.


So, this basically serves no real purpose, other than keeping appearances and sending proper signals to bored strangers on the internet, affecting nothing at all.


What would be sufficient openness? What do you think they should be saying and to whom? Who should they be seeking and accepting criticism from?

Should Space X proactively issue notice to the media and request for public feedback?

Should they be emailing all employees details?

Should Elon be posting on twitter for feedback?


Among other standards, OSHA reporting requirements:

<https://www.hseblog.com/osha-accident-reporting-requirements...>


Are you seriously implying that they didn't?

Someone claimed that they were insufficiently open and I'm asking what they should have done that they did not


Or don’t want to provide meat for the legal meat grinder.


Maybe they should?

Already most companies do the absolute least OSHA lets them get away with (and often not even that...)


What do you expect them to do, especially considering legal and healthcare/PHI constraints?


SpaceX is not a covered entity under HIPAA, they are under no PHI constraints that healthcare providers are under.


Over the decade I worked in retail and warehouses prior to becoming an accountant, I never once saw an OSHA inspector.


My impression is that OSHA tends to be reactive.

Unless there was an incident or a report of unsafe activity you aren't going to see OSHA.


It gets clicks!


And karma votes :-)


And satisfaction that you are one of those few people who not only care about human lives, also actively fights a billions of dollar worth megacorp.


If NASA would, then why SpaceX no?


Internally they definitely should.


The other dozen poor soles who probably died in work related accidents today don't count as they have nothing to do with Elon Musk.


the more empathy you can learn to have, the more likely you'll listen and understand where people are coming from. if you find yourself leaning too much to one side of things whether it's politics or something else, then you might be in an echochamber and aren't hearing what the other side is really saying.


that was my favorite podcast, but he did say that he stays away from it because it's meant for people who need it as an immunosuppresant


that is honestly one of the cooler perks i've heard of


ikr? just because a few got bored doesn't mean it's what everyone else if feeling. if anything, i'm addicted more than ever and i hate it. my productivity has exponentially gotten worse in the last 10 years of using youtube.


completely missed that. thanks for sharing.


haha nice


crazy that some people have no clue they contribute 0 value in what they say, am i right?


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