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There are many cases of market failure and inefficiencies, rentiers, useless 'BS jobs' and unchecked monopolies in a market economy. Why would the people criticizing it be wrong? It's not like it's rare.

A landlord or a holder of IP can and will arrange deals that have negative value for society because of the fact it attracts monetary value for them.

A client paying for a service, is this done 'willingly' when it is needed and no other choice exists? If someone wants to compete, can they navigate the moats companies are so fond of?


I think the concept of BS jobs is BS. That's because the fulfillment people get from jobs isn't tied to the value the economic value they provide to the firm or even the social value they may or may not provide. Some people may hate teaching because they feel it is soul crushing to them (especially if they are not supported and the school isn't in good shape) despite it being socially useful someone else may enjoy being an elderly greeter because it lets them continue working and they may feel they are providing some social value even if most people don't care another person may be happy working at the shrinkwrap factory because it provides money for their family


Re failures and inefficiencies, correct. But 99.999% of jobs do not fall into those categories for any meaningful duration of time.

Agreed on landlords -- this is a rather unique but huge failure case. My comment history is full of harping on this particular point :)

> A client paying for a service, is this done 'willingly' when it is needed and no other choice exists?

Yeah obviously you can do the work yourself.


I assure you this motivation does not exist in a vacuum, and many will quite rightly find achievement more important than generating capital for someone else.


And if raids are court ordered?


I agree wholeheartedly. There are many benefits still to be reaped from making this regulation more paperless and automated, while keeping it as a check against unsupervised growth.


The non-Javascript message on this page reads:

> What a lovely hat

>Is it made out of tin foil?

Oh my, very aggressive


>Due to maintainability issues, the navigation header and footer are fetched via javascript ajax requests and inserted into pages on iacr.org.[1]

That these clowns don't use server-side scripting for this speaks volumes to why everyone should block their JavaShit.

[1]: https://www.iacr.org/tinfoil.html


The amount of pain caused by HTML not having a "client-side include" is ridiculous. Server-side include is very old, but for various reasons having it client side would be easier for use cases like this.

(Security would have to be the same as <script>)


We could call it <frame>, or maybe <iframe> since all the cool kids use isomethings these days.


Frames don't reflow. For headers etc people would want to integrate with the rest of the DOM.


"seamless" iframes were meant to, right? Don't know what happened to that.


Most headers today are expandable and need to be”open up” to take the full more of the screen when interacted with.

This is not possible with a frame.


Obligatory reminder that XSLT exists.


The JS on this page isn't even used to fetch the header/footer either. Most of the 230KiB of Javascript seems to be mathjax.

Childish stuff like this makes sense for personal blogs, but this unwarranted hostility immediately made me distrust this organisation.


Welcome to 2024 when JavaScript is indeed everywhere. It's not hostility. It's reality. Aside from two people here and Stallman, absolutely no one cares about disabling JS any more.


I almost always run websites with Javascript (sometimes I turn it off to get out of illegal cookie walls). I don't really care about the website requiring Javascript (even though it doesn't for this specific page), I care about the explicit hostility against someone whose browser doesn't load JS.

The website would've been fine if they hadn't added anything, yet they went out of their way to insult a small minority of their visitors using a <noscript> element, and took the time to write a weird rant about how you should really enable Javascript for some reason (I guess they only know frontend stuff and don't know how to run a backend server?).

To me, this degrades the website to the level of "personal blog of someone with a grudge" as much as websites that'll redirect you to a rant for leaving Javascript on. For a personal blog, that's just a weird quirk, but for a supposedly scientific, academic space to publish research, that's just bad vibes.


> Welcome to 2024 when JavaScript is indeed everywhere. It's not hostility. It's reality. Aside from two people here and Stallman, absolutely no one cares about disabling JS any more.

This is an irrelevant diversion, and materially untrue - "> What a lovely hat\nIs it made out of tin foil?" is absolutely hostile, and that fact is not contingent on the number of people who disable Javascript.


How many enterprise security suites offer remote browser isolation though


Have they considered iframes?


> Oh my, very aggressive

And also missing the point entirely. Websites working without JS is not only a matter of security. It's security + accessibility + SEO + usability on older or quirky devices + usability via the likes of curl...


Yes, a textual site which requires Javascript - or any other active component really - for the text to be read is a bit like a book which requires a decoder ring to read. Just present a text-only or pre-rendered site if the visitor can not or does not want to enable scripting, Maybe add a reminder that the site has some functionality which only works when scripting is enabled.


It's not a message about websites working without JS. It's about browsing with JS disabled.


That's code for linear programming (optimization) not for linear algebra


Tech workers here are paid so much less than they should be; there's tons of unemployment only to earn 15k/yr when theyre at work. Salaries like this are a joke and should rise


No, your avg tech worker is not going to be making 15k/yr. Maybe around 40k/yr and that would be an "average" salary for a non-senior position.


No, your avg tech worker is not going to be making 15k/yr. Maybe around 40k/yr and that would be an "average" salary for a non-senior position.

Both of you are wrong for different reasons. The truth is more nuanced.

First, Madrid is very different from the rest of the country. Salaries are higher, still half of what our neighbors of the north have. 15k/20k sounds like a rest-of-the-country average.

Even in Madrid 40k€ is far from average, that it's more likely 28k.

40 is the salary for a very senior o very specialized programmer/analyst.

But there's a caveat that makes you closer to reality for Madrid and it's if you add forced pension and health insurance that the employer pays. It's around 40% on top of the raw salary, so someone earning 30k is really costing 42k to the employer.

After income tax, those 30k become 24k :(


What a weird take to defend tech salaries in Spain, I'd love to move but the very top salaries for my level cap around 80-90k EUR so it'd be quite a big drop even compared to the UK


Where do you read a defense of anything? This is not a "weird take", just a statement of a fact (may it be true or false): that the average is ~40k and not ~15k (it is currently illegal to pay less than 15.876 euros per year).


As the other comment said, it is not a defense

But be aware that the London salaries upper tail is wider, possibly brought up by the quant firms (which are a different kind of company than most are accustomed)

levels.fyi gives 112kE as the median and 200kE/90% for London vs around 60kE for the median and 90kE/90% (pretax for both)


Levels.fyi is always very inflated for anything outside of FAANG – to the point where it's not realistic

Glassdoor lists the average for SWEs for Madrid at 35k€ vs London at £66k (76k€) which even accounting for cost of living is quite a big difference


There's a massive corpus of useful math proofs, just most of them have been implemented and are second nature now


It's much more expensive to live in the center of a big city. And not just in Spain.


Or in Pierce Brosnan's "The World is not Enough". They must have liked the whimsy of a pipeline vehicle.


I forgot about this scene and how much fun it was. Here it is for others’ enjoyment: https://youtu.be/9h1zn7l86HA


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