The lower the standard of your team, the more you will appreciate idiomatic code. I don't work in SV, blue chips, or anywhere that could use Scala. A couple of us at my last place had a hard time moving the team from Source Safe to SVN, Git was out of the question. "What's the point of commit messages if you only commit every three months?" - not kidding, not a junior. Lines thousands of characters long, literally. I saw a pattern once. Once. CIO was one of these copy/paste VB devs, common in London, an unfair generalisation, but necessary as a warning sign. Some people become developers without any interest in development, completely oblivious to *nix/open source world, simply as a job, 9 - 5, and might have flipped a coin between development and accountancy. Some places don't give a shit about software development, or the idea of engineering - "just get it done!". Resharper, fxcop? Yeah, right. Degrees don't all teach compiler design, some just Java OO and a bit of Glassfish. If Go replaced C# in all of these arbitrary SMEs there would be far fewer WTFs. But people would struggle without Visual Studio debugging and a big run button. I'm being harsh, and seriously, not suggesting anything about MS devs, who include the world's best as well as the world's worst, but I find people on this site are often, to their fortune, oblivious to what working in the 99% can be like (the figurative 99%). Long live idioms, gofmt, golint.
Are you making the argument that Go is finally the magic language that can make bad devs write good code ?
Let me be the realist here : it isn't.
Go is just a very young language that, for the moment, only has developers that are curious and therefore either good or willing to learn. This has the additional consequence that for the moment the mailinglist is very helpful. History teaches us that both effects have nothing to do with the language and are temporary (unless the language never sees any "real" acceptance, like Haskell).
You can look messages from some years back showing the same sentiment for Delphi, Visual Basic, Java, Python (especially Python had lots of people making this argument), ... And when those messages were posted, they were true. It didn't last long for any of them.
> But people would struggle without Visual Studio debugging and a big run button.
Sadly this is being used as an excuse for making language with substandard (to put it mildly) debugging facilities and editors.
And of course, like for every other argument, the Go team itself is just being extremely arrogant about this. "Why do you want this ?" type responses, or just dead silence, or outright declaring the people asking the question to be substandard developers or some such.
But precisely, that's the interesting part. For instance COL in Madrid and Barcelona are similar yet salaries in Barcelona are lower. It's kind of the point of the article, crossing COL data and salaries after taxes. COL alone in itself gives a hint but it's not enough.
And you will still die poor and miserable, because try as you might YOU CAN NOT TAKE this which I have and you don't. You will just never have it and I always will.
yes, gray and Humpback whales have several bottom feeding strategies that involve exposing burrowed preys and stirring up the sediment. Some dolphins do this also, is not so unusual. Some sharks and of course almost all rays do this also.
"..representations of abstract concepts, capacities for learning and reasoning... consciousness is some sort of sophisticated, elegant computation ..." -- But would it love?
I was thinking this comment sounds a bit alarmist and paranoid, and Alex Jones came to mind. Lo and behold, you mentioned von Mises. Racism and fascism are not equivalent to the holocaust. Even apartheid era South Africa was not equivalent to the holocaust. There are many degrees of shit between happy and holocaust.
Yes, it's like a generic word for this purpose. An instrument/machine that moves, or takes you or stuff from one point to another.
You can put it like "chandra" (moon) + "yaan" and it becomes "a vehicle that goes to the moon; or is built for a purpose related to moon"; or "vaayu" (air) + "yaan" and it becomes an air-plane. "jal" (water) + "yaan" and it's a ship.
In our trains there are "shayan" (sleeping) + "yaan" - here it means "coach", i.e. sleeper coaches as opposed to those sitting coaches.
