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US has Fest and Canada has Pouzza Fest.


Well, the guy claims he needs to be in a relationship to be happy. Not the healthiest thing.

>If I'm not in love, if I'm not with a long-term companion, I cannot be happy," he told Rolling Stone. "I will never be happy without having someone. Going to sleep alone kills me. It's not like I don't know what that feels like: Being in a big empty house, and the footsteps echoing through the hallway, no one there -- and no one on the pillow next to you. F--. How do you make yourself happy in a situation like that?"

https://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/elon-musk-personal-...


This was the reason I bought a Nokia and I was very happy already participating on the beta program to get Oreo for my Nokia 5. However the poor support (and by that I mean, none at all and saying that's google's issue when on all my other Android 8 Motorola devices it worked perfectly) of Android Auto made me ditch it.


That's why a lot of people at the border go to a private dr in Mexico instead.


I've got an avocado tattooed on me and even for me 3 sounds excessive


13% are reported earning minimum wage. This is a known way for employers to avoid paying more taxes, seguro social, etc. Then they get all other part of their salary marked as 'bonus'


I don't see any reason to think that there aren't a number of laborers being paid the minimum wage in Mexico, or else why would anyone go to the trouble and risk of illegally crossing the US border to take sub-minimum wage work?


The very large population earning $30-$50 a week work for companies or individuals who will never report that salary in order to avoid paying taxes on it. This means any statistics related to this issue are going to be hard to trust namely, the situation looks better than it is and thus why so many desperately want to cross the border. It's not like Mexican companies don't make money, they make tons of it. They just don't share or invest it.


I don't find it unlikely that that is happening, but I find the claims here that absolutely no one in Mexico is paid the minimum wage hard to believe.


At least no one working on a stable company, im sure theres people working on the fields that earn the minimum. I live in Mexico and i don't know a single person that earns the minimum salary. Even people doing interships earn more than the that.


I was agreeing with you :)


That's what I get for not reading carefully.


Oh there are. But we can not say if all the 13% reported earn minimum wage or not. I'm not saying there isn't. There just isn't 13% that's for sure. Even if it is at 12.9% we just really can't know.


Sure, but then you are also missing all the people who make below minimum wage because they are not formally employed. Which is a large number of people in Mexico. For example, the salaries of domestic workers are hardly ever reported (the average is around 2 minimum wages, but it is unclear what the lower bound is and is not like they work only 40 hours in practice, see: [1]), and the earnings of street food vendors probably vary a lot (it might often be above minimum, but in plenty of cases it could also be below).

[1] http://www.jornada.unam.mx/2014/02/05/sociedad/039n1soc


But by the same token, people are going to drift in and out of minimum-wage work, either through unemployment or better employment. It's not like it's the same fixed 13% of the population we're talking about. So it could well be a greater proportion of workers who at one point or another have worked for minimum wage.


Using current exchange rates that's about 3850 MXN a month.

That sounds like what my friend made as a cashier here in Mexico.

Very shitty payment, even for this country. A good entry level job starts at about 10k a month.


>why would you need more muscles? that consumes more calories :)

That just means you get to eat more yummy food.

>and are pretty useless, except for our stupidly wrong society's standards

That depends on what you want/like to do.


From another article[0]

>Neither method has been approved in the US, so Zhang went to Mexico instead, where he says “there are no rules”.

[0]https://www.newscientist.com/article/2107219-exclusive-world...


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gattaca

Sometimes here in HN you will hear about how things like name,age, etc are bias for who gets hired, and people being rejected based on those things. So just add "method of conception" to that.


I was very much annoyed by the movie when I saw it. Primarily because the "genetically inferior" person somehow had more motivation and drive than the genetically engineered ones.

So perhaps they were not so much genetically superior? Maybe motivation can be passed through DNA?

In reality, what I think might happen is some people would choose the genes they want, but others won't. At the end, people will mix, so the whole population will benefit.


> Primarily because the "genetically inferior" person somehow had more motivation and drive than the genetically engineered ones.

One thing he had over most of the "valids" was the opportunity to choose his path. The valids' parents made choices for them (Jerome was made to be a swimmer, the 12-fingered pianist, etc.). It's not wholly different than seeing a child prodigy fail as a functioning adult. They don't all, but many times when someone excels in youth in some activity and is pushed into it by the adults in their lives, a failure later leads to an inability to redirect their energy and lives (for extended periods, they become depressed). They existed for a singular purpose for so long and aren't capable (emotionally, mentally) of dealing with the freedom to choose what to do next.

Vincent's character possessed drive for several reasons: 1) he was better than his brother as a swimmer/athlete, and so knew that his in-valid status was nonsense; 2) he was resentful of being shunned by both his parents and society, and motivated by that; 3) as an in-valid, he had no purpose in life, so once he chose one, he put everything into it. The valids who still possessed their potential were similarly motivated with regard to their goals.


That's the thing. If he was the better athlete then they didn't do the generic engineering well at all.

For me the message seemed to be "don't do generic engineering because it cannot beat motivation" which discounts the potential overlap between the two and also undersells the potential gains of genetic engineering.

What if his competitors were 10x smarter and 10x faster swimmers than he was as well as being equally motivated?


A better athlete than his brother. Not than everyone. Each valid was designed by the parents for something, or in the case of his brother just generally enhanced because they weren't filthy rich.


I guess my point is that the valids could have been 100x better athletes than all the invalids which wasn't the case in the movie. For example, they could have retractable fins and could breathe under water.

Something which would make them swim a lot faster and the point of the movie would be lost.


>Primarily because the "genetically inferior" person somehow had more motivation and drive than the genetically engineered ones.

But this has nothing to do with the moral issue. Maybe it was the fact that "in-valids" had to struggle and deal with discrimination which caused the character to give his most, given that he knew where he standed while the 'valids' are in a place of comfort.


In many ways reflecting the notion of privilege. The "valids" gained much of their quality of life benefits due to the nature of their conception rather than the nature of their person. Similarly, the "in-valids" were denied those things for the same reason.

It wasn't meritocratic except within its two communities, and the one (in-valids) were denied access to the upper levels as a matter of policy.


That's kind of the point of the movie, that his "genetic inferiority" was as much a cultural construct as anything real.


   	 Liz:
I'm sorry. You have a problem with the science of Hot Tub Time Machine?

  	 Wesley Snipes:
Yeah, not the time travel. It's the hot tub. You don't just turn one on and it's immediately hot. I should know, I've been in a hot tub two times.


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