@dang, one day I would imagine that you can deal with Islamophobia with the same scrutiny you have toward other forms of racism. Maybe in a different world.
Islamophobia is a problematic term, since there is no unified concept of Islam to begin with. What is seen Islamophobic by a radical Muslim of Wahhabi sect (as an exmaple) may be seen as legitimate criticism by a moderate one. Based on my understanding it's mainly mosques with radical teachings and funding from certain countries that are being monitored.
I have not mentioned Islam anywhere, and strongly believe that any organized group that spreads hate and violence needs to be investigated and dealt with.
I think it's a demonstration of who is 'inside' and who is 'outside'. On HN, if you talk about racism or issues with white males, you get chased away - those are the people here, on the inside.
If you talk about women or Muslims, for example, they are objects of examination - what are they like? what do they do? They aren't participants, mostly; you don't have a lot of women and Muslims posting about it - think about it: if we want to know about Islam, why don't we listen to Muslims, who would actually know from a lifetime of direct experience? What we see is mostly from the perspective of someone looking at Muslims - they are on the outside. A predictable result of the ignorance is stereotypes and prejudice. And even prejudiced and hateful ideas are treated as 'curiosity' - the curiosity of (mostly) white males. Nobody is curious about racism or sexism, for example.
My sense is that what I see on HN, maybe unconciously, is moderated to accomodate the insiders.
I totally agree that the "normalisation" of Islamophobia is concerning, and the rise since last October is particularly alarming... but the GP didn't mention Islam at all - they were clearly making a blanket statement about all religion.
It’s honestly a bit islamophobic to assume that anyone saying religious violence is bad must be attacking Muslims, isn’t it? Jumping to that conclusion requires a bunch of leaps that I’m not sure are actually true.
I agree, the tree of comments below you just belies these prejudiced and hateful attitudes. Concerned but not surprised that many people interested in tech topics are choosing to discuss how it’s ok to surveil people for their religion and put guilt by association on them… instead of discussing why targeted surveillance of groups based on religion or place of worship is problematic, fueled by bigotry and ignorance.
Religious groups aren't (well, shouldn't) be special. They're just like fans of a sports club and if they cause violence and hate, they should be investigated.
Part of dealing with Islamophobia would be dealing with problematic posts like yours ascribing intentions and emotionally charged sentiments to statements that display no such intention. Go ahead and exactly quote the scrutinizable statement in the post above you, please.
>muh *phobia
There's nothing irrational in fear of islam, since whole "religion" is a call to conquest of others. Try opening a history book for a change instead of larping online about things you never experienced.
