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The ACLU, for one.

As I understand it, a jury will determine whether this was a coincidence or mafia-style doublespeak and the courts will typically respect their finding of fact.

Emails from ABC, Nexstar, and the FCC may shed some light on things. See also: Dominion and Fox.

Right. My guess, though, is that those emails don't exist --- not because the intent wasn't there on the administration's part (without getting too deep into my politics: "lol") but because the FCC wouldn't need to have.

There's also just a large affiliate station ownership that is conservative, and a large number of affiliates in markets that are themselves very conservative, and Kimmel did say something really dumb that probably did piss a lot of people off in a diffuse, organic way.

Again: I hope he sues, I hope he gets to the inside of a courtroom, and obviously I hope he wins. But speaking descriptively, rather than just what I want to see happening: he has bigger problems than standing ahead of him.


Haha not only is Disney submitting to the bullying they are now making up a story to protect the bully.

Murder of someone with late stage cancer is still murder.

Good point

On the other hand, this fits a very consistent pattern with the administration and businesses or personalities that it deems critical.

Plus of you're going out in a blaze, it's something more substantive than what he said.


Are you willing to equally apply this to people who called the killing "leftist violence" and said he is one of "them"?

I try to have a consistent and coherent worldview.

It depends on to what extent the killing was leftist violence, and who you're referring to when you say "them".

What do you think were the killer's motivations? Let's see how closely you've been paying attention.


> when you say "them".

When I say "them" it is in reference to the statements made in the wake of political violence. You hear a lot of mentions of "them" from pundits and politicians. It's a cowardly way to let the viewer fill in whatever they want for "them", "the left", "maga", "antifa", "globalists", etc.

What were the killer's motivations? I haven't been paying close attention.


> When I say "them" it is in reference to the statements made in the wake of political violence.

To the extent that this person is slandering someone I condemn it. To the extent that this person is referring to the bad actors responsible I support it.

Seems rather simple to me but let me know what you don't understand.

> What were the killer's motivations? I haven't been paying close attention.

I'm not trying to be combative but you're speaking from a place of willful ignorance. This is adding very little to the conversation.


> It's a cowardly way to let the viewer fill in whatever they want for "them", "the left", "maga", "antifa", "globalists", etc.

It's not a specific "them" but rather a placeholder for anyone in opposition to the person speaking. Just look at tweets from prominent figures immediately after the Pennsylvania assassination attempt. "They did this." "We need to protect ourselves from them."

You reframe the use of "them" as an accusation about a person who can claim slander. It's not that. It's a cowardly way to avoid facing reprecussions by slandering a vague group.

> you're speaking from a place of willful ignorance

Except the conversation is about being consistent in condemning people who use "them" reactively. It doesn't matter if Kimmel is right or wrong in claiming the shooter is maga, which - for me - is the more important conversation.


> This is adding very little to the conversation.

Nice.

Saying the shooter was "one of them" has been the most common commentary from both sides. It's inaccurate to call either conclusion a conspiracy.

Can you visualize a Venn diagram that has 'free speech' and 'the First Amendment'?

The comment you replied to said "free speech" which is different from the First Amendment.

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