We don't have that authority.

I was in TPU when I was a teen: teenage programmers unite. Not sure if they still exist but maybe all us old members can start a construction company together!

Ahh: http://www.tpu.org/

> I was in TPU when I was a teen

Considering that in particular 3D-printing enthusiasts and material scientists associate something different with "TPU" [1], this sentence has a slight sexual/fetish undertone. :-D

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thermoplastic_polyurethane

Incoming: Another round of "OMG that's so illegal" from the same people that say copyright shouldn't exist.

Setting aside the question of who holds it, is it an inconsistent position? If a broadening of fair use is necessary for developing large language models, it's perfectly consistent to argue it should also extend to artists/archivists/derivative works in general, otherwise you're staking out the position that pirating one book is wrong but downloading Books3 is fine

It's all so tiresome.

Inflation in CA over the past 3 years is likely 50% (my personal estimation for necessities is over 100%) If you cut 2%, you're really cutting it by 52%. There's no way someone will want to work for peanuts. It has been gutted.

Everything Trump says is important so I would listen carefully. We're lucky the new president knows where he is too.

Yes that's what I did term 1. But, looking back, I could have saved a lot of time not following news stories that ultimately went nowhere (e.g. new healthcare & infrastructure plans, etc). The rhetoric was there, but the willingness to put words into action was not -- which is at the heart of my question.

Isn't the entire point of the term ecmascript created to resolve this?

It prevents Oracle from suing, but everybody calls it JavaScript anyway...

And the fact Oracle didn't sue for trademark infringement on that or TypeScript which is often referred to as JavaScript is probably not going to help Oracle here. But I doubt Oracle cares either way.

Nor did they sue ActionScript (Macromedia Flash's implementation of JavaScript), CoffeeScript (a separate language that compiles to JavaScript, and has a name very much evoking Java).

I don't see any reason why that would matter. The name "actionscript" does not have the word "java" in it.

The relavent part is they didn't sue anyone using the name "javascript". Even if they had a valid trademark (which i doubt) that doesn't prevent anyone from selling a similar product under a different name.

I was replying to that_guy_iain, who pointed out that Oracle didn't sue Microsoft for TypeScript. Notice that TypeScript does not have the word "Java" in it either.

Did they even have the trademark for those two. AFIK They got it in 2010 when they bought Sun.

There's are tons of libre licensed Java JVM's which names related to coffee.

Which is evidence that Javascript is now a generic term.

Brendan Eich always used to say that ecmascript sounds like a skin disease.

Not to be confused with EczemaScript or AcneScript.

It sounds like you’ve come down with the elusive humor monad. To prevent state mutation be sure to bind once a day with OCaml:

https://ocaml.org/docs/monads

Ecmascript was coined by ECMA International when they published the JS standard just to cover their ass and not get sued by Sun. It was never intended to be a name for the language, and has never been treated as such.

That's right -- Sun refused to donate the JavaScript tm to ECMA (now Ecma), MS jumped in and offered "JScript" which no one wanted, so the standard ended up with the ECMAScript name (still five first letters all capitalized), which also no one wanted.

Use AI for all posts that have 10k views and do a scan for similar posts with embeddings

I think a more simple solution is to expose every person to let's say Matt Walsh, Tim Pool or Charlie Kirks explanation/opinion as well as Don Lemon, Destiny and Cenk Uyger and see where they land.