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Museum of Modern Art (MoMA) | Staff Software Engineer | Full Time | NYC ONSITE

Apply: https://mo.ma/3Isll0b

We have a really exciting roadmap the next few years and I'm looking for an IC counterpart to help lead and build the future of digital product at one of the world's pre-eminent art institutions. We build the moma.org website and a few other touchpoints for visitors, built using a combination of mostly Go/RoR/JavaScript. There are a lot of interesting technical and product challenges that this role will be key in helping figure out, in addition to the technical challenges of a likely re-platform over the next couple years. It's a very unique opportunity particularly if you love art.

Must be located in (or willing to relocate to) the NYC area as we do work at the museum 2-3 days a week. Salary range is $130K-150K USD, and unfortunately no visa sponsorship available. Apply here: https://mo.ma/3Isll0b


would you be willing to take on any interns? Located in NYC and on my last year at NYU.



150k...for a staff engineer... in NYC?


Nonprofit salaries are generally not as high as other sectors. There are still good reasons why lots of people would want to work for a nonprofit, particularly one as prestigious as MoMA. And that is more than livable, even in NYC.


> And that is more than livable, even in NYC.

No, it's not.


The median household income in NYC is $70,663. We're talking about Manhattan mainly for this job, so let's double that. That's still less than the 150k salary, and this is a single person, not a household.

I promise you, you're not going to be homeless at 150k.


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I'm confused what you're even replying to

THIS is what we're discussing:

>> And that is more than livable, even in NYC.

> No, it's not.

(Aside here: you made a new account to argue against straw man arguments?)


What? OP was replying to an assertion that 150k is not “liveable” in NYC. Of course the median household income in the city is relevant to that.


That all depends on what you mean by livable, no?

Your mileage may vary, but as a professional of that standing, having invested substantial time and intellectual energy to master my profession, my social requirements, for my spouse, my children, my friends, where we go, what we do, are not going to be satisfactorily met by such an income level in New York City. This doesn't even have anything to do with personal preferences in such matters, but ultimately how one lives and provides for loved ones and the natural company one keeps.

Developers are not children. We are professionals and our profession is in fact one of the more highly demanding cognitive professions.


I don't think many people will claim 150k is market price for a staff engineering position in NYC. But it is more than enough to live in Manhattan. Full stop.

If MoMA or another non-profit offers you a salary than fails to support your lavish lifestyle: don't accept it. Hope that helps.


Median NYC household income in 2021 was 70,663. Pretty sure double the median income is a livable wage.


> a prospective employer first makes you "consent" to a legal agreement before even getting to employment application

What kind of legal agreement are they asking you to sign off before the job application?

Sounds like CloudKitchens. Cloud Kitchens engineering managers cold emailed and then told you to sign an invention assignment agreement just to do the first call with the engineering manager.


That’s so detached from reality it’s funny


Very low for a staff engineer in NYC, but 150K to work in the arts actually seems somewhat competitive to me. Wait until you hear how little most broadway actors/ensemble members make. 150K will take you pretty far if you want to live the bohemian artist life in NY, especially if you want to live in neighborhoods with other artists, e.g. Washington Heights.


This might be filtering for trust fund kids? /s


More like FIRE folks who got bored.


I'm just wondering but isn't 150k almost nothing in NYC? Does anyone know what the cost of living is, for instance, for a 3 bedroom apt, etc.


I'm in the center of NYC so I'll answer this question. Currently, it's about $2,800 for a studio and $3,500 for a one bedroom. If you're single I'd say you need around 120k to live somewhat okay. That's 6.6k a month after taxes so minus about 3k it's 3.6k a month for bills, food, and however else you want to budget the rest. Depends on your lifestyle of course.

If you want a three bedroom then you'd want to live outside of NYC and commute about an hour by train. It'll be around 3k-4k then.


Yeah...what about retirement accounts? If you're not putting money away into retirement, you're either bad at managing money or just scraping by.


150k is perfectly liveable in NYC, even in Manhattan heart. It’s probably not feasible to have a three bedroom apt in Manhattan on that budget but it’s very doable in the less hot parts of Queens, Brooklyn and Bronx. If you think of moving to Long Island, you can even rent a house with a yard.

You will probably need a partners income if you want to live in a unit where you can raise a child, and will need significantly more for the both of you to raise multiple children.


3 bedroom apt in NYC? There's not a lot of those and that's going to be insanely expensive, like $5k+/month for sure.

I lived in NYC for almost a decade and I don't remember anyone having a 3 bedroom.

I lived in 1 bedroom in Astoria (Queens) for $1.5k-$2k


Lots of tech jobs pay 150k or less in NYC. I'd think its probably just below median.


And another one to remove inline images until you click expand: http://userscripts.org/scripts/show/181114


This was big for me when I was applying for jobs earlier this year. Teams that had a blog, updated it reasonably often talking about their recent challenges they overcame or fun projects went a long ways in making me want to work with them. The careers page is nice, but talking don't really present the culture and specific work that gets done in a very good way.

There's a couple companies that come to mind that I feel like do a pretty good job with this - Tumblr (look at some of the intern reports from this summer and the rest of the staff blog), and Etsy's Code as Craft blog go a long ways in making their engineer teams attractive.


I couldn't agree more. Engineers are loathe to enter into a traditional recruiting process (i.e. go in through the front door) when they have so many options out there.

It's far more attractive if they can 'window shop' and get a true sense for your team/culture/challenges without kicking off a gauntlet of interviews for them to learn the same stuff.

Obviously, interviews are still important for the hiring team, but it's time to make the overall process better (and more front-loaded with the company's engineering project info) for the engineer candidates.


I helped with this too. Lot of fun working with Node.js for the first time.


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