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That's a total waste of time. 520 days gone for an experiment.


I have a wife, kid , family and friends and things to do and places to go to and goals to accomplish.

I would never spend 520 days of my life stuck in a make-believe space ship. rofl.


You might if one of your goals to accomplish was getting humanity to Mars.


i'd let someone else do it.


And isn't that exactly what's happening here? Someone else is going through an experiment, not you. Thanks for adding to the conversation.


@tadfisher, looks like there are way more crappy Android phones out there than high quality ones.


And this statement, while valid and testable under some definition of "crappy", has nothing to do with comparing hardware quality between manufacturers. This reminds me of the smear campaigns Apple used to wage against beige boxes, nevermind the sheer diversity of hardware running Windows and the homogeneity of Macs.


Android is a "platform" brand.


No it's a perfectly valid comparison. it's like saying cars made in Detroit fail more often than cars made by BMW. Android is widely considered as a low-quality OS running on low-quality hardware. Android's strength (ubiquity) is also its weakness (it runs on crap hardware).


Android is software, not hardware. This post is complaining about hardware, but somehow blaming software instead.


Android is not just software, it's a platform. If the hardware is low-quality, that's still an Android issue.


Android phone repair costs carriers billions: study 'At the moment, Android is a bit of the Wild West,' says expert

Costly hardware failures are more common on Android devices than on Apple iPhones and Research In Motion BlackBerry phones, which have strict control over the components used in their devices

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/45150844/ns/technology_and_scien...


Bros before Hoes


English isn't my first language, but I believe "hoe" means prostitute, and doesn't have any positive connotations in any context.

Your remark doesn't have anything to do with the context, and is offensive.


"Ho" means prostitute. "Hoe" means garden tool.


it's even scarier to think what the millions of artists, entrepreneurs, etc. who Steve inspired will accomplish in the future.

Right now there's someone working on the next billion dollar start-up in his garage that's going to blow us all away because he was inspired by Steve.

That's Steve's greatest legacy.


I expressed the same thought on my blog a few weeks ago:

"He managed to inspire a whole industry, while doing what he truly loved. Millions of entrepreneurs world wide have been inspired to do the same as a result of his work. This may be his greatest legacy and something that will live on in all of us long after his passing."


Bill Gates is like Joe Satriani. Satch is one of the most technically gifted guitarist of all time. Hes a master at all the complicated alternate picking and shredding. But his music absolutely sucks.

Steve Jobs is Eddie Van Halen. A tortured virtuoso artist who is not only a master at guitars and keyboards. This guy produced some of the most innovative guitar playing in the 70s and 80s. He also created some of the most kick ass rock and roll songs of all time.

Satch plays awesome guitar. EVH creates awesome music.


Your analogy is terrible. Both examples you gave refer to musicians who are technically capable, but with one being able to turn his mastery of the instrument into music that people like.

Steve Jobs did not have mastery of the instrument. He was "technically limited", but still able to create compelling products. If you wanted to keep the analogy, it would be better to say that he was Bob Dylan (coincidentally, he was one of SJ personal idols).

Anyway, I'm going to try again: can you please stop with the Apple fanboyism? Such blind worshiping and your monotonic comments are so annoying that it makes me want to dislike anything about SJ and Apple.


Steve is not technically limited. Just because he had limited formal education and training dosn't mean he's technically limited.

That's just how insecure people describe him so they can feel better about themselves.


But hardly a "virtuoso" of computing, n'est-ce pas?

Face it, you can not have it both ways. Either Steve Jobs mastery was in taking ideas that were already there and putting it together in a way that was appealing to the common man (the "Bob Dylan"), or he was someone so ahead of its time that people could not comprehend him, pushing the state further to a level that others could not keep up - the "Satriani".

As for your childish insult... I could go on a long diatribe about how the insecurity usually lies in people that need to put others on a pedestal, but you'd need to get out of the Reality Distortion field to be able to understand it.


Why is he not a "virtuoso"? Bcause you said so? And Why cant i have it both ways?

And that staement was meant for Bill Gates, but if you were insulted then I guess you're guilty.


Quit the bullshit, troll. There is no way that you were talking about Bill Gates. He was not the one that said anything about Steve Jobs being technically limited. I did.

I had enough of you. Bye.


rofl I was talking about Bill Gates.


True. As long as Steve had Woz on speed-dial, he was not technically limited. :-|


Steve is a great business man. He knows how to manage,manipulate and bring out the best from his designers and engineers. He didn't design and he didn't code. He didn't invent ipods or iphones or ipads. Sure he approves it and demands it.But he didn't create any of those things. He is not an inventor. He is a great CEO. Comparing him with Einstein just disgust me. I'd feel better if he was compared to Jesus.(not an inventor either but knows how to influence people)


You can always buy an Android phone if you're so concerned about your "freedom". oh wait Android's no better. /snicker

option 1: if you buy an iPhone you get f'ed by Apple.

option 2: if you buy an Android phone you get f'ed by Google, your Carrier and your phone manufacturer. true story.


Just a friendly reminder that after about 1-2 more of these comments that add nothing to the conversation, you're going to reach negative karma and be shadow-banned.


We're supposed to comment intelligently and politely, but I can't think of either to reply to this.

The reality of the situation is of course nothing like what you are saying.


I agree. HP's hardware business is dragging down its stock price. this is one of the reasons why IBM sold off its PC division to Lenovo. Services and software usually provide a return on invested capital of 30 percent or more, compared to 15-20 percent for hardware.

IBM's ROIC is currently at 34.1% compared to HP's ROIC at 16.2%. After IBM sold off its PC division to Lenovo in 2005, IBM's ROIC grew from 17.75% in 2006 to 29.55% in 2010 with a 5 year average of 27.6%.In comparison HP's 5-year average ROIC is only 15.9%.

HP wanted to do the same thing IBM did 7 years ago. The big difference was that before selling off its PC division, IBM already had a strong software and services business (generating half of its revenue). they also bought PriceWaterHouseCoopers' consulting arm in 2002. HP's software and services business isn't nearly as strong, even after buying Autonomy so they got clobbered by analyst and the media.


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