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Would be cool to see the Quetzal website internationalized itself and see what it looks like in different languages.


We do have it translated into 13 languages right now, which language is your browser set to so we can add it?


I was also looking for that


! basically functions like @ in Slack and chat applications. The only difference in Linen is that we give you an @mention so that it doesn't necessarily need to send a push.


We actually tried shipping a desktop client with Tauri and Rust. It helped with initial bundle size but performance and resource consumption was kind of similar. We also ran in to issues with the api’s being bit limiting. Most likely we’ll revisit the desktop client with Tauri but depending on how mature the api is we may have to resort to electron.

Our bundle size has actually only gotten smaller since we’ve shipped our first version. We know it will gradually grow but we try to be disciplined in not using too many external dependencies


> we try to be disciplined in not using too many external dependencies

Cheers to that. It’s unfortunately an uncommon belief.


Thanks! Linen is secretly email in disguise. We have played around with syncing with email clients which would let you manage all your messages and notifications from one client.


As someone who has officially given up on having any semblance of keeping up with the never ending fire house of totally unmanageable slack threads, channels, DMs etc, especially since Slacks update last year, I would sell my left Kidney to just have one big list of things I need to look at at reply to/dismiss.


That sounds similar to Basecamp tbh.


I've actually REALLY wanted to find a project that would be suitable to give base camp a try with.

It DOES feel like it "could" be that holy-grail between IM, project management, email, etc.

But I feel like you need a whole team all onboard for it to make sense.


We've actually done test on scaling. This is a fork of Linen.dev which had community of up to 50k members. So we've tested this well. Search is an on going feature we are working on. We're going to enhance it with more embedding like search functionality.


We use Elixir for websocket/real-time updates but crud stuff like settings, creating channels etc are mostly rest.


Definitely agree on developer community and third party integrations. That is our main focus after this launch. Building just a good quality chat tool took quite a bit of time but we understand how important the dev ecosystem is.

Thanks for checking the privacy policy will update to include AWS!


One of the pain point I've actually seen for Slack is Slack Connect becomes disorganized very quickly to the point where you need a custom solution to manage it. I think it is a symptom of the overall problem with Slack. Since Linen is thread first it makes manage these conversations much easier. We do plan on shipping our own version of Slack Connect or even integrating with existing channels.

Pricing wise we're still figuring out. I do think paying for active users is a likely direction though!


Yes we will! We've shipped a desktop client previously with Rust(Tauri) but their api's were a bit lacking. We'll be revisiting it very soon


One thing that we wanted to do was to create a design that was more modern and a bit more familiar to the average Slack/Discord user. I think zulip is great but can be a bit more overwhelming. We wanted to keep a familiar UX as much as possible while giving the benefits of a thread first experience.

Secondly we are a bit more opinionated in thread management. Our inbox is designed to get to an inbox zero state. We have things like !mention vs @mention which helps with urgent vs non urgent communication.


Trying to understand - how is Zulip overwhelming? I am a user of both, and I find Zulip to be way more pleasant, easier and less noisier than Slack.

The other upside of Zulip is that it is very easy to self-host.


Today I just tried Zulip, in order to join a dev community. Yes, coming from Slack/Discord background, I felt like Zulip is a bit too much


That sounds good, thanks!


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