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I had lunch with an entrepreneur with a "big idea" to convince major LLM platforms to feature ads in their answers, using businesses that they specify.

It was a very short lunch.


I'd guess you paid for both meals but they asked for the receipt to claim it as a business expense.

According to the model card it is extremely fast, can be hijacked 25% of the time, has access to search tools, and has a propensity for dishonesty.

I also think it is optimistic to think the jailbreak percentage will stay at "0.00" after public use, but time will tell.

https://data.x.ai/2025-08-26-grok-code-fast-1-model-card.pdf


Temperature plays a large role in fine tuning model output, you're correct that there is a theoretical sweet spot:

https://towardsdatascience.com/a-comprehensive-guide-to-llm-...


> With this new decision, Anthropic makes this "free-riding" less attractive

Certainly not for any users like you and me, it takes two seconds and three clicks to review the new terms and decline chat training. This is more like Anthropic getting easy training from people who are unaware or don't care.


Seems the same thing. They're giving plausible deniability, but knowing they'll still scoop up a worthwhile amount of data/profit from some % of users.

Same here, I thought it was going to be an analogy for a political story.

Now that I know it is literal leeches and that the options are scraping them off or waiting for them to finish, avoiding areas with leeches feels like the move.


I don't think it is that esoteric, that sounds like deepfake 101. If you don't mind answering, does Phind do anything to prevent / mitigate this?

It seems like every combination of "nano banana" is registered as a domain with their own unique UI for image generation... are these all middle actors playing credit arbitrage using a popular model name?

I'd assume they are just fake, take your money and use a different model under the hood. Because they already existed before the public release. I doubt that their backend rolled the dice on LMArena until nano-banana popped up. And that was the only way to use it until today.

Agreed, I didn't mean to imply that they were even attempting to run the actual nano banana, even through LMarena.

There is a whole spectrum of potential sketchiness to explore with these, since I see a few "sign in with Google" buttons that remind me of phishing landing pages.


They're almost all scams. Nano banana AI image generator sites were showing up when this model was still only available in LM Arena.

Interesting, but after my initial impressions I predict the results of the experiment will be "this is why we can't have nice things"

I feel like this experiment has already kind of been run with 4chan and 8kun, which are sort of famous for their awfulness.

Yep. Just took a look and the top post is just someone writing the n-word over and over.

The first post in my feed was "Kill all Jews" I feel like we're already there.

What about the people who did not opt to share or index their chats, and the companies that claim to not train on user chats?

https://privacy.anthropic.com/en/articles/10023555-how-do-yo...

> We do not actively set out to collect personal data to train our models

The 'snarky tech guy' tone of the article is a bit like nails on a chalkboard.


(At least to me) that language doesn’t feel particularly reassuring… especially given the duplicitous nature of data collection - i.e. “we don’t sell your data” translates to “we create a sophisticated advertising profile about you, and monetize that”


Those are totally different things. Google and Facebook do /not/ sell your data. The reason they're valuable is they don't sell your data, that would mean everyone else has it!

They rent out your attention span by providing you a service and then showing you ads.


That line is about data they find on internet. soooo completely not relevant


You reminded me of an awesome Google engineer I met at BSidesSF last year who tirelessly answered my questions, and when I clicked on the video, it was you! That was a really inspiring moment for me, thank you.


BSidesSF is a fantastic event, glad you're able to attend. There's some great people organize it and if you want to help out they're always looking for volunteers. Happy to make an intro if you like.


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